"Free" health care!
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"Free" health care!
| Thu, 07-22-2004 - 7:15pm |
I wonder how many of you have had to live without health insurance? You say that health care is not a right? NO WONDER! You have always had a place for the bills to go other then your mailbox! How many of you have ever asked what the actual cost of your prescriptions are? Do the math! Do you have any idea what it is like to call around from doctor to doctor trying to find one who would see you WITHOUT insurance? Have you ever stood at your doctor office and humbly asked for samples instead of a prescription because u know that your $360 check wont stretch enough to cover your $280 med bill AND the doctor appt. Don't even mention medicaid! If you make enough money to buy food and scrape by...you do not qualify.
Go ahead and be technical but if you ever run into some bad luck you will see things in an entirely different light!
Go ahead and be technical but if you ever run into some bad luck you will see things in an entirely different light!

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Well, aren't you just special!?
<< "Second, I'm sure Liberals serving in the military feel that they fight for other reasons than socialized medicine...protect our freedoms, love of country... "
why are you sure of that? Is there any reason for it, or is it just that assuming it that makes you feel justified in your beliefs.
as fara smost military being republican, I would be interested to see how many vote republican this time around. I made that assumption too before on this board, and got put rightly into my place. >>
Based on 24 years experience in the military, that is why I'm so sure of what I've said. Et tu?
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I've explained where my numbers come from. Do you dispute them?
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The 40 million figure comes from the census, so Bush used the 'official' number, but it doesn't represent the number of needy people who don't have access to healthcare.
Renee ~~~
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxFacts/TFDB/Content/PDF/oecd_inctax_2002.pdf
Canada
Single earner: 74.3%
Family: 84.9%
USA
Single earner: 75.7%
Family: 88.7%
Bear in mind, with that disposable income, americans get less benefits, so they pay more out of pocket, for things such as medications, health insurance, don't get maternity benefits (one year here), etc... In Quebec, we get dental care for children and province-wide high quality childcare.
BTW, I've been often in the US, and there is such a thing as sales taxes there too, except in a few states. And people pay even higher property taxes (at least in the cities where my friends live)...
Yes, I've also heard stories of people who were convinced that they needed something, that their doctors told them they didn't need, and went to the US for consultation, and after expensive tests, told them the same thing!
But hey, canadian doctors sometimes mis-diagnose or mistreat. Judging by the amount of litigation in the US, I'd say that happens there too...
How many people own their own homes in the US compared to Canada? How much savings to americans have (canadians save much more, so that says something..), how much vacations do americans take, how many cars, computers per capita? Not that each of those things is important in itself, because different people value different things. It's also different here from province to province. I remember reading an article not long ago about the vast differences between Quebec and other provinces. Quebecers spend a lot more on food, wine, vacations, clothes, entertainment, esthetic services and a few others, but buy relatively smaller homes, save more, and borrow much less. Not a judgement, just statistics.
But I guess I got sidetracked..
Now, my second question, if we are actually paying more out in property taxes, yet Canada is able to pay for every citizens' health care. Where is all my taxes going? To have socialized medicine here in the States, it would required an increase in my taxes. If I'm intrepreting this all correctly, I think that this information only supports my personal position that giving politicians more money to spend would be foolish of me. Like I said in a previous post, if my children spent their allowance unwisely, I wouldn't just keep giving them a larger % of my salary so they could spend on what ever suits their fancy, whether I had it or not. If I'm interpreting this chart and percentages wrong, someone please explain this to me.
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