Kerry & his Vietnam Buddies

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Kerry & his Vietnam Buddies
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Thu, 07-29-2004 - 9:52am
A perspective from Vietnam Vets who served with Kerry. Few Swift Officers support him. "Of 19 Swift boat skippers pictured other than Kerry" in the photo the Kerry campaign featured in an advertisement released in May titled Lifetime. "11 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral, two have died, and 2 are working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers were not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry."

http://www.swiftvets.com/

Senator John Kerry has made his 4-month combat tour in Vietnam the centerpiece of his bid for the Presidency. His campaign jets a handful of veterans around the country, and trots them out at public appearances to sing his praises. John Kerry wants us to believe that these men represent all those he calls his "band of brothers."


But most combat veterans who served with John Kerry in Vietnam see him in a very different light.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been formed to counter the false "war crimes" charges John Kerry repeatedly made against Vietnam veterans who served in our units and elsewhere, and to accurately portray Kerry's brief tour in Vietnam as a junior grade Lieutenant. We speak from personal experience -- our group includes men who served beside Kerry in combat as well as his commanders. Though we come from different backgrounds and hold varying political opinions, we agree on one thing: John Kerry misrepresented his record and ours in Vietnam and therefore exhibits serious flaws in character and lacks the potential to lead.

We regret the need to do this. Most Swift boat veterans would like nothing better than to support one of our own for America's highest office, regardless of whether he was running as a Democrat or a Republican. However, Kerry's phony war crimes charges, his exaggerated claims about his own service in Vietnam, and his deliberate misrepresentation of the nature and effectiveness of Swift boat operations compels us to step forward.

For more than thirty years, most Vietnam veterans kept silent as we were maligned as misfits, addicts, and baby killers. Now that a key creator of that poisonous image is seeking the Presidency we have resolved to end our silence.


The time has come to set the record straight.


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Registered: 06-17-2004
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:26pm
Just bumping up Metrochick's post - hope some people take a couple of minutes, enough time to get the temple vein to stop throbbing with Kerry hatred and actually read it.

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:31pm
Someone explain to me, why is the 'Nature of Kerry's Wounds' so important?

Is there really a difference between:

Someone who got a bullet/shrapnel defending America and got a purple heart.

or

Someone who got a bullet/shrapnel defending America and didn't get a purple heart.

To rank a wound received in combat based on some sort of merit scale just reeks of SLIME.

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:34pm

your itemized bill stuff had me howling with laughter...


If anyone presents me with a request for money (i.e. a bill) without an itemization of what it's for, they don't get paid.

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:35pm
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Well we have a self admitted war criminal running for President... in Kerry... it's time to stop electing war criminals to office... isn't it? At least with respect to Kerry there is no debate... he's admitted it!

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What speech or context are you getting this? I would like to see the words as they were said. I recall, saying the duties he was assigned to perform were not consistant with the Geneva Convention.

Now, if you have something that shows he said WAR CRIMINAL, please post it as I would imagine both Kerry and Bush supporters would like to see it.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:36pm
"To rank a wound received in combat based on some sort of merit scale just reeks of SLIME."

The treating physician for one purple heart and the CO for another over at swiftvets conclude that 2 of the purple hearts were for self inflicted non-combat wounds.

If this is indeed the case, Kerry is guilty of cowardace, is guilty of fraud... and should be removed from the Senate and impeached to prevent his having any benefit of a citizen of the United States. To know if this is true, Kerry must open his military record to 3rd party review as Bush has. Over at swiftvets they have a nice copy of the military form in .pdf which Kerry needs to fill out.

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Registered: 05-21-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:37pm
Please take a deep breath, because your tone is getting way out of hand. You have personally insulted some and that is uncalled for.

John Kerry quote is just that. He isn't lying, he isn't hiding he is making a statement of fact. Now if you want to call every person whom was in Vietnam, every person whom commited an act of violence a war criminal you are in your right to do so. But please keep in mind that you are calling thousands and thousands of our soliders war criminals. The same people whom have defended our great country, whom defeneded our freedom is the same person whom you call un-American. With a great sigh....I just don't get your thinking.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:38pm
Dear it's clear YOU don't understand the way bills work their way through congress... at least now that's settled... back to basic civics class!
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Registered: 07-05-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:40pm
"And I feel sorry for you if you do not see that voting against something does not mean you don't support it."

Voting against something DOES mean you don't support it... it means you seek to negate it to have it made meaningless.... Kerry voted NOTHING for our deployed troops... troops he voted to deploy. This cannot be reconsiled...

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:40pm
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The treating physician for one purple heart and the CO for another over at swiftvets conclude that 2 of the purple hearts were for self inflicted non-combat wounds.

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Just as I thought, this stuff is almost a year old.

Keep throwing the slime, you're going to need it.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:41pm
"What speech or context are you getting this? I would like to see the words as they were said." Read the thread, I provided a quote from a transcript of Meet the Press from 1971 quoting John Kerry himself.

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