Kerry & his Vietnam Buddies

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Kerry & his Vietnam Buddies
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Thu, 07-29-2004 - 9:52am
A perspective from Vietnam Vets who served with Kerry. Few Swift Officers support him. "Of 19 Swift boat skippers pictured other than Kerry" in the photo the Kerry campaign featured in an advertisement released in May titled Lifetime. "11 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral, two have died, and 2 are working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers were not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry."

http://www.swiftvets.com/

Senator John Kerry has made his 4-month combat tour in Vietnam the centerpiece of his bid for the Presidency. His campaign jets a handful of veterans around the country, and trots them out at public appearances to sing his praises. John Kerry wants us to believe that these men represent all those he calls his "band of brothers."


But most combat veterans who served with John Kerry in Vietnam see him in a very different light.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been formed to counter the false "war crimes" charges John Kerry repeatedly made against Vietnam veterans who served in our units and elsewhere, and to accurately portray Kerry's brief tour in Vietnam as a junior grade Lieutenant. We speak from personal experience -- our group includes men who served beside Kerry in combat as well as his commanders. Though we come from different backgrounds and hold varying political opinions, we agree on one thing: John Kerry misrepresented his record and ours in Vietnam and therefore exhibits serious flaws in character and lacks the potential to lead.

We regret the need to do this. Most Swift boat veterans would like nothing better than to support one of our own for America's highest office, regardless of whether he was running as a Democrat or a Republican. However, Kerry's phony war crimes charges, his exaggerated claims about his own service in Vietnam, and his deliberate misrepresentation of the nature and effectiveness of Swift boat operations compels us to step forward.

For more than thirty years, most Vietnam veterans kept silent as we were maligned as misfits, addicts, and baby killers. Now that a key creator of that poisonous image is seeking the Presidency we have resolved to end our silence.


The time has come to set the record straight.


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Registered: 07-05-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:54pm
The context is he was asked if he was guilty of the same war crimes he accused others of perpetrating. His answer was yes. There is no other context.
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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 1:57pm
Guess it depends on what one views as propaganda. He views the list of websites I listed to be such, but I don't. I see Michael Moore's stuff as propaganda, but there are other's that don't.

<< You may read Democratic viewpoints but do you take seriously any of the pieces that are not objective or could be deemed propaganda? >>

But I DO read them! As in the above example of Michael Moore. I've listened to him in interviews, read articles about him & have read his website. I take it seriously, because so many others take him seriously (not that I found myself agreeing though). You'll find wide variances from both sides of the isle & inbetween as to what's objective and what's propaganda.

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:01pm

Not really... Kerry however makes it very easy... generally a no is a no... it's like being a little bit pregnant you are or you aren't...


Please refer to my example about our governor cutting millions from our education budget.

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:04pm
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The context is he was asked if he was guilty of the same war crimes he accused others of perpetrating. His answer was yes. There is no other context.

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Im sorry, I didn't see WAR CRIMES in your post the first time, thank you.

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:20pm

Here is an article that details the reasons why at least one House Rep did not support the bill.

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:24pm
You give a non-answer... the issue here is Kerry's voting NOTHING for the troops he voted to deploy. If you wish to discuss cuts in funding in your state, sure put up a thread... we can discuss it. I am NOT a resident of Georgia.
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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:29pm


:-) Georgia is definately blessed!

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:34pm
All those reasons could be of some interest in some other discussion about the nature of bills.

Yet... even with reservations... ultimately the bill was an up or down vote on supporting deployed troops in a hostile situation... there is only one vote possible... debates about the amount, or about specifics are fine before the final vote... on the final vote anyone voting against, is voting against the troops.

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Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:37pm
":-) Georgia is definately blessed!"

Indeed it is... you have gotta love your new Republican Senator... the curse on Georgia of Democrats is ebbing :-) Congrats!

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Registered: 07-30-2004
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 2:40pm
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****If he makes it an issue, then it's open to scrutiny.****

I never said it wasn't....I was saying his record is "much" more impressive than Bush.

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Huh?

My point is he spends more time at his Texas ranch in Crawford. It seems every time I turn the TV on he is at his ranch. That is why I call it the White House South West. Except I forgot to add "House" to my comment...lol OPPS... =)

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