Kerry staring at failure in the face

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Kerry staring at failure in the face
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Thu, 07-29-2004 - 11:54pm
As the balloons misfire, Kerry and crew are pictured with fear on their faces..... the first failure of the Kerry campaign.... if he's this terrified of misfiring balloons... what the heck did he look like in combat? http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040730/capt.dnc15907300309.cvn_kerry_dnc159.jpg

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 08-04-2004 - 2:29pm
Well I hope you'd understand any self professed war criminal is to me not appropriate to run a military, especially the largest military in the world. We have enough troubles due to normal incompetence and miscommunication... adding a known criminal element to the top of the chain will only set the lowest bar possible for the entire chain of command imho.

As to Bush holding Bin Ladin... yes... I believe somewhere in Pakistan Ossama is in a hole, and everything which he gets, every piece of food he receives, every dump he takes, is evaluated by our military intelligence... and I believe it's creating the situation we are now in where there are massive arrests in Pakistan of terrorists, and where we now have specific targeting information for active plans... my belief is Ossama is being pumped dry of information witout realizing he's already effectively in US custody... this as he's more likely to offer information thinking he's free, and probably somewhere someone is enjoying the fact that the rat hole he chooses to live in is below war criminal detention standards.... so he's actually suffering more now and providing more information now than if we overtly took him into custody... give up one for the Yale and Harvard guy :-) Besides once he is exumed from his hole, Democrats will say so what :-)

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Registered: 05-21-2003
Wed, 08-04-2004 - 2:49pm
OK I was wrong...never did he say anyone was a war crimimal.

I do thank you for re-posting this.

Now on to the statements...

1. He committed and admitted to the court martialable offenses of failure to obey a general order and/or dereliction of duty

His statement: all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down."

2. He committed and admitted to the court martialable offense of misprision of a serious offense (that is: he knew about it and did not report it)

Didn't he report it when he went in front of congressional committe?

When I read his statements, I don't see anything to suggest that he (in your words) is a self described war criminal.

From his first statement on Meet the Press and his secound on Dick Cavett I don't see anything he is saying different.

Your trying to spin something that just isn't there to spin.

I can't grip that you truly believe he is a war criminal. Maybe your def. is different than mine. Maybe I see his acts of violence as kill or be killed. Just as in EVERY solider through out the world past and present.

I am not a military law expert so I won't go into all of the articles because I have no expertise in that area. And I won't try to spin them to suit my purpose either.

Now please if you still feel the need to call a viet. vet a war criminal, please use the phrase "in my opinion" because John Kerry has not called himself one.



iVillage Member
Registered: 04-08-2003
Wed, 08-04-2004 - 3:56pm
It's A WHOLE LOT ado about nothing.

He's not a war criminal until he's brought up on charges and convicted of being so.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 08-04-2004 - 6:07pm
Err no, he admitted to performing atrocities, admitted they were in violation of treaties regarding conduct during war. He tries to use two excuses, one that he was ordered to do this, but that doesn't work, such orders to commit war crimes are moot. Further ignorance is no excuse. He admits to understanding later what he did was criminal. Please review the Dick Cavett quotes... there is no ambiguity, Kerry has admitted to being a war criminal.

:-)

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 08-04-2004 - 6:09pm
A man may confess to crimes, and not be tried... yet still be a criminal. The conviction is public determination and punishment (justice) for the act. Currently Kerry is a self professed war criminal who has thus far avoided / evaded justice.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-08-2003
Thu, 08-05-2004 - 9:31am
Well, If you say so. I would think if true, something would have been made of it a very long time ago.

I have never seen him say WAR CRIMINAL. I read the quotes, went directly to other links that had the same quotes and I didn't see WAR CRIMINAL.

But I certainly won't disagree anymore about it. It doesn't change my opinion of him, nor would I imagine your opinion of him would change if he wore a god given halo :)

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