Iraqi reconstruction

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Iraqi reconstruction
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Sat, 07-31-2004 - 11:14am
Given the gross mismanagement of the how US funds are rebuilding Iraq, I have to ask one question:

Why are Bush and Bush supporters against other EU nations getting contracts and rebuilding Iraq?

I thought we were there to make life better for the Iraqi people. It's as clear as glass, the current so-called plans aren't working and is not the ideal situation for the IRAQI people.

And even if we did allow these EU nations to assist in rebuilding, they probably wouldn't come anyway: Security is worse now than at any other time in 2004.

Iraq == a miserable failure even for a humanitarian mission. A failure because of pride and arrogance.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-24-2004
Sat, 07-31-2004 - 7:15pm
I heard today that the Iraqi interim government is asking companies to start hiring local Iraqis to drive the trucks. It seems that these companies import cheap labor from African nations and Pakistan to drive the trucks, and these are the people that are being kidnapped. So they are thinking that if these companies hire locally, it may halt kidnappings and it will also give Iraqis jobs and oh my god--->MONEY.

But I don't think these companies will do it, I mean are they really there to help the Iraqis or themselves?? It seems to me it is to help themselves..... but it is just an opinion....

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-08-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 8:05am
The point, is that it's mutually beneficial right? The American companies there stand to make a truck load of money.

Since, American reconstruction is going much slower than those WAR MONGERING NEOCONSERAVTIVE policy makers said, wouldn't it be in the BEST interest of the IRAQI people to spedd it up.

As well as to our soldiers, the faster it's done, the faster they're home.

Unless of course, the Adminsitration has no intention of leaving Iraq, which is exactly what I think.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-24-2004
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 8:35am


Now that is the $64,000 question isnt it? We have spent too much money to just leave without anything in it for us. I really do not think they want Iraq to run well, or to really let Iraqis have jobs and money. IF they did, they would have had a much better plan than the one they have now....

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-05-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 10:00am
Whatever fraud, waste and mismanagement there may be in the Iraqi reconstruction, when done by american companies, american law, and investigation can occur... as to the French and others... why should US taxpayers give them our money... it's the US funding reconstruction, the companies who are doing it largely hire americans when possible. Why shouldn't we benefit from our own investment?

Also regarding French and other "european" management, the billions missing and in personal hands from the Iraqi oil for food program managed by the UN and largely by europeans makes any scandal of any american company in Iraq appear as a fly to an elephant.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-08-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 10:29am
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Now that is the $64,000 question isnt it? We have spent too much money to just leave without anything in it for us. I really do not think they want Iraq to run well, or to really let Iraqis have jobs and money. IF they did, they would have had a much better plan than the one they have now....

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Actually, my opinions on this border Left-Wing Liberal Poison. But I've been on this kick ever since I became dissatisfied with The Bush Administration in late 2002. Project for a New American Century was founded in the mid/late 1990's, their first order of business was to invade and conquer Iraq, establish a forward Military base there as a means of excersing Global Dominance.

Check out their website, notice who they list as their founding members and their place in running the country in 2004.

So, PNACs future as well as the Iraqi peoples future are on the line in this election.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-08-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 10:32am
So, your answer is: Keep the status quo, no matter how ineffective?

My point was not to allow other countries to be warm and fuzzy to them, it's acknowledging that the efforts by the United States are not working: They're either way behind, way under budget (Another issue all together, where's the money going in Iraq!) or just plain out of sight now.

It's not about Fraud and mismanagement, it's about the inability of the United States to win the peace in Iraq.

Are you FOR the Iraqi people, or American interest?

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 10:48am

Djie

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 11:14am
So glad you posted that! I was trying to remember where I had seen it. All is not doom & gloom in Iraq. In fact, it's going better than is being reported in the news (for the vast part). Why report anything going well if it helps Bush?!
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Registered: 07-05-2003
Sun, 08-01-2004 - 12:45pm
No, my answer isn't status quo... it IS that the europeans have a demonstrated history of self interest and tolerance of corruption beyond what most americans can even imagine. I indicated the food for oil corruption as an example... with american companies doing reconstruction work, we have greater accountability.

Overall reconstruction seems to be progressing as well as could be expected with the problems of terrorism. It's tough when every other day a major pipeline or electrical line is blown up.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 08-02-2004 - 8:29am
You're welcome. I also posted it on the WOT-board so that's where you might have seen it. :)

Whenever I come across positive reporting of what is going on in Iraq, I'll post it.

It is a significant part of the current events in Iraq.

Did you notice BTW how it "kills" any "debate"? :)


I think it's terribly shallow to nót report progress, and that indeed reeks of the <<"Why report anything going well if it helps Bush?!">>.
People/governments who preached "patience and tolerance and don't-rush-into-war-we-need-to-give-Blix-more-time, etc.", as reasons to oppose military action, are generally (not all) pretty much the same who will nów ignore/diminish any progress, their "patience" seems to be out the window.
They generally (not all) seem to think that the reconstruction of a country

Djie

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