Destroy All Religion

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Destroy All Religion
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 12:37pm
I believe the problem with the world and especially the US is the presence of religion. All religion does is promote hate, greed and get the Republican Party reelected. So I think we can all agree that we must get rid of all religion, especially the worst one of Christianity, but the question is how?

Here is my proposal. I find that weak people often turn to religion to 'ask' their God for things like daily bread or healthcare problems. So if government provides us all with free healthcare, free food and everything else free than people will realize that it is government that solves their problems, not some stupid god like Jesus Christ that never answers their troubles. Thus as government grows, religion contracts, look around the world and see that more government societies have less religion.

This is why I urge you all to vote for John Kerry, he will make things more free like free universal healthcare and free college education. His proposals are a good step in my opinion in ridding the world of all religion and faith, as like I just said people will look to government more for answers.

We all know religion is the root of all problems in this country, join me and vote Democrat so we can all move to a better world of no religion.

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 3:12pm
Someone evidently took down our "No Troll Zone" sign. nt
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 3:49pm
I'm no troll! Typical Republican, can't beat my argument so you have to discredit me.

All that's missing is the 'Praise Jesus' in your sad argument.
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:04pm
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No it's not and that is just as dangerous. Spiritual belief is ficitious as there is no higher being right? So falsely looking to some fictitious higher being means not looking to government, which weakens the growth of government.

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I think you have to die to have an accurate answer to that :)


Edited 8/4/2004 4:12 pm ET ET by go_left

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:05pm
Can't beat your argument? I pointed out several fatal flaws in your "argument", and did so quite objectively. The problem here is that you have no visible means of support for your arguments or means of refuting my observations on them.

"All that's missing is the 'Praise Jesus' in your sad argument."

Unfounded assumption on your part. Just to fill you in on it, I'm agnostic. I don't care for organized religion, and don't participate in one.

So much for your attempt at an effective rebuttle.

~mark~

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:09pm
Mark, I just want to say I love reading your posts. And with this noreligion person, and his/her complaining you want to discredit him/her, I just have to laugh. You don't need to discredit anyone on this board. You make more sense than anyone here. (To me, that is.) Keep it up!
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:13pm
corny - "Mark, I just want to say I love reading your posts. And with this noreligion person, and his/her complaining you want to discredit him/her, I just have to laugh. You don't need to discredit anyone on this board. You make more sense than anyone here. (To me, that is.) Keep it up!"

My points were far better. You only cheer his Republican side because you're religious yourself. I see that cross icon next to your name, I'm surprised it's not burning...

I didn't realize this was such a right-wing biased board!

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:18pm
Thank you for another little chuckle.

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:19pm
Thanks. I just can't fathom anyone seriously believing that government is the solution to all our problems, that it's there to take care of us. Not only is perspective impractical, it's completely contrary to the intended relationship between the people of this country and it's government.

Yeah, I thought that "discredit" comment was funny too.

Take care...

~mark~

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:25pm
Precisely how were your points "far better"? They illustrate a rather distinct misconception of the relationship between our government and the people (it's supposed to be that the government interferes in our lives as little as possible, not AS MUCH as possible), as well as the fact that our government was intended from the very beginning to be a *limited* government, which limited powers and authority as opposed to a government with all-encompassing, unlimited powers and authority. You apparently want to turn both principles on their heads.

That has nothing to do with religion, it's objective fact. When you can reconcile those objective facts with your particular view of what our government is supposed to be and our relationship with it, let us all know.

~mark~

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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 4:39pm
I was intrigued, laughed when I realized you were joking, and surprised when I read your other posts and realized you were serious. Even the deeply religious have their beefs with their faith of choice (many religious people support legalized abortion for one), but to level the broad-based accusations you have done goes beyond that.

How does telling someone else what they can/can not/should/should not believe equate to freedom?

Also, the blind faith that a bureaucrat in Washington cares more about your well-being than you, your family, or your neighbors is unsupportable. Even if the bureaucrats did care more about you, what makes you think someone in D.C. actually knows what you need more than you, your family, friends, and neighbors?

I’ve commented before that some liberals (even though they claim to oppose religion) are very religious people. Their religion is liberalism or socialism. They have faith in these models even though these models have been tried and failed throughout history. Can you name a great government in our world’s history? Liberalism and socialism are both moral albeit secular faiths to have, but they have the same problems you level against organized religion; It doesn’t work and it pits people against one another.

BTW, you did see the coverage of Kerry coming out of church a few weeks ago didn’t you? Doesn’t that make him an idiot? Or his he simply pandering to those “fools” on the right side of the isle for votes that are too dumb to know any better?