Bush supporters give me a break!

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Registered: 08-02-2004
Bush supporters give me a break!
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 2:17pm
I have just read through some of the info on the GOP thread and this will be my first time posting a discussion, so here it goes:

I truly feel like whenever I hear a Bush supporter speak, it is like listening to someone with Stolkholm syndrome, THEY ARE COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED!!! I mean, honestly, unless you are living in a cave (without internet, mind you) there is no way that the Bush supporters do not intake the same news that I do.

HE LIED!!! HE LIED!!! Let this serve as a newsflash to anyone who did not know. THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. IF THERE ARE, HIS DAD SUPPLIED THEM. This is something that they were aware of befor the sent us into Iraq. That is unethical manipulation of your position of power.

For those of you who were just about to argue that we went in for "humanitarian" reasons to collapse the tyranical reign of Saddam, let me just halt you in your tracks. Why are we not in any country in Africa, in which there are civil wars, AIDs epidemics, and feminist repression running rampant due to governmental proceedings? Why are we not in China? Why are we not in Palestine (oh wait, I forgot, we are, sponsering their killing by the Israelis)? Becaus they do not benefit us? So what's the deal, we fight for humanity contigent on how much money we gain from it? Give me a break!

I read another posting about how Republicans are frustrated with the Democrats focus on how George Bush cannot speak. A couple interesting points: It worries us that he cannot speak because you'd think that after a couple years at Yale, the University rated number one on the recently released Princenton Review, that he would be able to process a few words. I guess the fact that he graduated with like a D average just does not count. Additionally, I would just like to call to attention the fact that over and over again science has come to the conclusion that the major difference between humans and the animal kingdom is our ability to speak, and our advanced methods of communication which in turn lead to organization and technology, thus the advancement of the human race. If he cannot speak, then he is getting closer and closer to the animal, right?

Finally, on the GOP thread several posters commented on how although Dems were calling them nervous, they were actually unwaveringly confident. Yeah, I would be too if my party had just rigged the last election!!

People, women, get to the polls!!

Let's make it like father, like son, one term!

Lani

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Registered: 08-02-2004
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 2:59pm
"Again, the only reason you're claiming it failed" is because Gore didn't win as a result of it."

I thought Gore lost in all recounts and not as a result of the Electoral College?

So in lay-men's terms: Even though there was a candidate that received a majority of the vote from a majority of the Americans, it is right that that candidate lose?

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:02pm
lani1130 wrote - "The Electoral College does not accurately represent the ratio of voters. If in the popular vote 60% of Americans voted one way, even though this is the majority, it only matters where these voters lived. If they were distributed throughout the least populous states, then their vote would not have mattered."

A purpose of the electoral college is to protect the interests of states with smaller populations from states with larger populations... the balance is done by incorporating seats in the senate with seats in the house to determine the electoral votes in a state. This is a good system, it's meant to preclude a tyranny of a plurality of voters in a small number of large states over the entire nation. It's a good idea, a good thing :-)

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:02pm
Yes. Hussein had a long-term issue with his Kurdish minority. The attack on them was deliberate, chosen for that villages relative remoteness from area's of importance to Hussein and the inability of the world to immediately be aware of what transpired there.

~mark~

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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:03pm
The problem is he's denied recently being a democrat, but thanks to freedom of information his registration as a democrat was shortly thereafter produced :-)
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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:05pm
Ultimately yes... when political solutions fail, war often is the final resort. It is also often the preferred resort of the superior power... as we are the only military superpower left... it's sort of hard for anyone to really argue.
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Registered: 04-08-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:06pm
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Which Democrat/Liberal positions does he find fault with?

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You can start with the expression: Clinton's the best republican President the Democrats ever had, and go from there.

You can decide what you will from reading his books, but I am not in the habit of purposely posting misinformation. I have read all his books and was quite a fan before he became such a celebrity.

I'll go on record now as saying it: I think 9/11 was done in expceptionally poor taste and is disappointing when you compare it to his other efforts. It's a 100+ million dollar grossing 90 minute campaign ad for the ABB crowd.

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Registered: 08-02-2004
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:06pm
When I wrote about the piles of cash, I was responding to an arguement made by another poster, not to the arguements that you had previously made and I had already responded to.
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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:07pm
I mean that he is filthy rich.
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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:08pm
Lani, Gore lost the recounts in the state of Fl, which caused him to lose the EV count and lose the election.

Had he won New Hampshire, it wouldn't have mattered.

So, Kerry just needs to win all the states Gore won, plus NH. That's it.

Now, this has caused some people to have a bitter taste in their mouth over the EC process but don't let it, it's a far better way than having California and New York decide all the elections.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:09pm
lani1130 wrote - "So in lay-men's terms: Even though there was a candidate that received a majority of the vote from a majority of the Americans, it is right that that candidate lose?"

Lani,

Do you understand we are a republic and not a democracy? The electoral college is consistant with a republic, not a democracy, this should surprise nobody... you may wish to investigate this further... it isn't an accident... and it protects states rights.

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