Bush supporters give me a break!

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Bush supporters give me a break!
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Wed, 08-04-2004 - 2:17pm
I have just read through some of the info on the GOP thread and this will be my first time posting a discussion, so here it goes:

I truly feel like whenever I hear a Bush supporter speak, it is like listening to someone with Stolkholm syndrome, THEY ARE COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED!!! I mean, honestly, unless you are living in a cave (without internet, mind you) there is no way that the Bush supporters do not intake the same news that I do.

HE LIED!!! HE LIED!!! Let this serve as a newsflash to anyone who did not know. THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. IF THERE ARE, HIS DAD SUPPLIED THEM. This is something that they were aware of befor the sent us into Iraq. That is unethical manipulation of your position of power.

For those of you who were just about to argue that we went in for "humanitarian" reasons to collapse the tyranical reign of Saddam, let me just halt you in your tracks. Why are we not in any country in Africa, in which there are civil wars, AIDs epidemics, and feminist repression running rampant due to governmental proceedings? Why are we not in China? Why are we not in Palestine (oh wait, I forgot, we are, sponsering their killing by the Israelis)? Becaus they do not benefit us? So what's the deal, we fight for humanity contigent on how much money we gain from it? Give me a break!

I read another posting about how Republicans are frustrated with the Democrats focus on how George Bush cannot speak. A couple interesting points: It worries us that he cannot speak because you'd think that after a couple years at Yale, the University rated number one on the recently released Princenton Review, that he would be able to process a few words. I guess the fact that he graduated with like a D average just does not count. Additionally, I would just like to call to attention the fact that over and over again science has come to the conclusion that the major difference between humans and the animal kingdom is our ability to speak, and our advanced methods of communication which in turn lead to organization and technology, thus the advancement of the human race. If he cannot speak, then he is getting closer and closer to the animal, right?

Finally, on the GOP thread several posters commented on how although Dems were calling them nervous, they were actually unwaveringly confident. Yeah, I would be too if my party had just rigged the last election!!

People, women, get to the polls!!

Let's make it like father, like son, one term!

Lani

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:18pm
Personal wealth of all candidates from most to least:

Cheney

Edwards

Bush

Kerry


They're all rich.

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:21pm
Fair enough. nt
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Registered: 07-05-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:26pm
Err Kerry has a spigot into his wifes bank accounts as indicated by his loan on a home they "jointly" owned which he put nothing into but borrowed millions out on for his campaign (a debt by the way which he never could qualify for using normal loan tables, the payments far exceeded his ability to pay). Put Kerry at the top of your list...

:-)

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Registered: 04-08-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:28pm
Naw, just still at work for another couple hours :)

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:39pm
Wish I was. Unfortunately my "last day" for the week doesn't even start for another 8 hours or so. Oh well...

~mark~

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Registered: 03-24-2004
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 3:53pm
Point is it is still not Kerry's money is it?

Edited to add something I had posted before...



http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/07/wealth.ap/index.html

Presidential race shapes up as millionaires vs. millionaires

Tax returns show Cheney earned the most

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans have a choice in November -- they can vote for millionaires John Kerry and John Edwards, or cast their ballot for millionaires George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

Of the foursome, Vice President Cheney and his wife, Lynne, earned the most, according to their 2003 tax returns that showed an adjusted gross income of $1.3 million.

That's far more than what the typical American family brings home: the median household income in 2002 was slightly more than $42,400, according to the Census Bureau. Only about 2 percent of homes make more than $200,000.

Count the Bush, Kerry, Cheney and Edwards clans among those 2 percent.

Bush and his wife, Laura, listed $822,126 in adjusted gross income on their 2003 returns, while Kerry's income was about $393,000. The four-term Massachusetts senator has four trusts worth between $430,000 and $2.1 million.

The Democratic candidate filed his return separately from his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, heiress to the $500 million Heinz Co. fortune. She released information showing earnings of at least $5 million in 2003.

Bush, a former oil company executive, major league baseball owner and governor of Texas, lists among his assets his beloved 1,583-acre Texas ranch, worth between $1 million and $5 million. He also has U.S. Treasury notes valued at $5 million to $8.7 million.

Cheney, who once headed the oil company Halliburton Co., has between $15 million to $75 million in tax-exempt bond funds and $2 million to $10 million in stocks being handled by a global investment management firm.

Edwards, the North Carolina senator and Kerry's running mate, hasn't released his 2003 returns. He did file a financial disclosure statement that's required of the president, vice president, Cabinet secretaries and members of Congress.

In the statement, Edwards disclosed income of at least $680,000 last year, although that's a conservative estimate because lawmakers are allowed to list their income on disclosure forms in broad financial ranges.

While those statements lack the specifics of a tax return, they do offer a glimpse into the personal wealth of politicians. The net worth of Bush, Cheney, Kerry and Edwards runs well into the millions.

Edwards, the son of a two mill workers, built most of his wealth as a highly successful trial attorney, winning $150 million worth of verdicts or settlements in the 1990s. His financial statement shows assets of at least $19 million. Last year, Edwards sold his Washington, D.C., home for $3 million, $800,000 more than what he paid for in 1999.

The cost of running

Running for national political office takes millions and millions, so having millionaire candidates isn't unusual, Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan watchdog group, said Wednesday.

"Unfortunately, it's not," Lewis said. "It's a sad commentary on our system."

Lewis said a voter may instead consider how candidates made their money, or in what profession, rather than if they are wealthy. He also noted that in this year's Democratic primaries, less wealthier candidates such as Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and Al Sharpton weren't popular with voters.

Terry Madonna, a political scientist at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, said he didn't think the typical voter "sees (rich candidates) as hypocrisy or as inconsistent. For the voters that matter, they will look at positions and policies more than anything else."







Edited 8/6/2004 3:58 pm ET ET by sondra_wins

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 4:58pm

Actually thats


Kerry


Edwards


Cheney


Bush

Renee ~~~

Renee ~~~

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 5:00pm
It occurs to me you are splitting hairs here, Kerry has a cash spigot through his wife, and also through Soros... he's got as much wealth as he needs or wants. More than Bush, Cheney or Edwards combined have immediate access to.
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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 5:02pm

Clinton was a conservative Democrat whose main successes were Republican issues. What Democrat issues does

Renee ~~~

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Fri, 08-06-2004 - 5:02pm
cl-wrhen wrote "Actually thats

Kerry

Edwards

Cheney

Bush"

That sounds about right... ok all your Democrats... start demonizing the wealthiest candidates... let's hear you denounce them... come on... the world is waiting :-)

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