Bush Smarter than Kerry?

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Bush Smarter than Kerry?
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Fri, 08-06-2004 - 8:57pm

'THE KERRY BRAIN


http://dbsoxblog.blogspot.com/#109162538493538368


Something’s been bothering me about John Kerry. I just don’t think he’s that smart.

One of the axiomatic dynamics of this presidential race has been that Bush is a dolt while Kerry is highly intelligent. But if Kerry is so bright, where has he been hiding his allegedly fearsome intellect? Does “I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it” sound like the workings of a brilliant mind? And yet the Adam Nagourneys of the world continue to insist that Kerry is remarkably “complex” with an uncanny sense for nuance. But I’ve come to a conclusion: He’s not particularly smart.

Let’s take a look at his academic record for illustration. As a control for our study, let’s use another party who for the purposes of this analysis we’ll call George W. Bush. As we all know, Ivy League admission back in the 60’s and 70’s was highly political. If you had the right connections, your ticket was all but punched. Thus, Kerry and Bush had no trouble gaining admission to Yale. Both hailed from the same prestigious prep school and had a surfeit of family “pull.”

At Yale, Bush was a famously indifferent student. Once out of Yale, Bush was an even more famously indifferent national guardsman. And yet a few years after emerging from New Haven, Bush gained admission to Harvard Business School, no doubt thanks to family connections and an academic performance that though quite unimpressive suggested that he would be able to handle the work at HBS.

Now the allegedly big-brained Kerry graduated Yale a couple of years before Bush. Kerry, unlike the President, is not a famously dunderheaded student; he was supposed to be blessed with his preternatural sense for nuance in the crib. After graduating Yale, Kerry burnished his resume by being a war hero first and a media star second. So after this impressive performance, where did he go to law school? Boston College.

(None of what follows is intended as a slight towards Boston College or its law school. B.C. is a wonderful institution that has produced many wonderful graduates including Michael Adams and Doug Flutie.)

If you’re not from Boston, you might be unaware of the following truth: No one here, in spite of Boston College’s undeniable strengths, would eschew an invitation to attend Harvard Law School to attend B.C. It’s simply not done. Thus we can reasonably infer that Kerry did not get in to Harvard Law.

And that’s remarkable. Given his family connections and his post graduate work both in the war and later protesting it, his admission should have been a given. The only thing that would explain Kerry not getting into Harvard would be that he performed dreadfully at Yale. Indeed, he would have had to perform at a level that would have raised the prospect that he couldn’t handle the work at Harvard. His efforts were probably so weak, they could even be described as sub-Bushian.

The reason this matters is because a key subtext for the Kerry campaign is that he’s smarter than the incumbent. The Senator, with his ear for subtlety and his eye for complexity would have seen through intelligence errors that fooled the rest of the world. Or so his campaign would have you believe.

I’ve scrutinized Kerry’s record searching for evidence of his purportedly giant intellect. I’ve found none. His academic biography includes no Latin words like “laude” or “magna.” Who knows? Maybe Kerry’s just being modest and doesn’t want to boast about decades old accomplishments. But I doubt it.

Of course, the Kerry campaign could prove me wrong by releasing transcripts of his time at Yale and Boston College. What about it, Kerry campaign – care to weigh in on this?


(Correction: Bush and Kerry did not go to the same prep school. One went to St. Paul, the other to Andover. I can't keep straight who went to which - sorry.)'

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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 4:34pm
yes I saw that to, my mother thought it was funny and i was laughing to but it was true ya know!!
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:43pm

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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:47pm
Welcome to the board! I'm looking forward to reading more from you. : )

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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 8:19pm
A professor of international business at Harvard, said Bush was among 85 students he taught one year in a required first-year course.

said the twenty-something Bush’s statements and behavior were —“always very shallow”—and still stand out in his mind.

“I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor because they’re lazy,”

“I remember saying, if you become president of a company some day, may God help your customers and employees.”

from

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181


Bush's Transcript:

Freshman Year:

Political Science 13B: 71 (C-)

Sociology 55A: 70 (C-)

Economics 10A: 71 (C-)

Economics 10B: 72 (C-)

Class rank freshman year: bottom 21%

Other grades:

Astronomy: 69 (D+)

Anthropology 25: 88 (B+) his best grade ever at Yale

Overall GPA: 77 (C/C+)

Bush's lowest grade: D+

Bush's best grade: B+

Bush's average: C/C+

http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=2636

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Wed, 08-11-2004 - 4:22am

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Wed, 08-11-2004 - 9:41am

said the twenty-something Bush’s statements and behavior were —“always very shallow”—and still stand out in his mind.

“I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor because they’re lazy,”

“I remember saying, if you become president of a company some day, may God help your customers and employees.”

from

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181

Bush's Transcript:

Freshman Year:

Political Science 13B: 71 (C-)

Sociology 55A: 70 (C-)

Economics 10A: 71 (C-)

Economics 10B: 72 (C-)

Class rank freshman year: bottom 21%

Other grades:

Astronomy: 69 (D+)

Anthropology 25: 88 (B+) his best grade ever at Yale

Overall GPA: 77 (C/C+)

Bush's lowest grade: D+

Bush's best grade: B+

Bush's average: C/C+>

To most people this news probably isn't surprising -

to others you think Bush is a genius who simply has trouble expressing his thoughts, guess what, no thoughts.....



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Registered: 03-31-2003
Wed, 08-11-2004 - 10:06am
Thanks for posting that article. I heard that same professor interviewed on Air America a few months ago and have been trying to find a transcript to no avail. He basically said that the Harvard administration put pressure on the profs to give politically connected students like George W. Bush C's no matter how poorly they actually performed in class or on tests. So it's no real surprise that his freshman year Bush pulled straight C-'s - they were all "gifts." In a world without affirmative action for rich kids, George W. Bush would have flunked out (or never been admitted at all).

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Registered: 04-16-2004
Wed, 08-11-2004 - 10:11am
Not saying that, but I think the way he handled the situation was just fine.

7 minutes was not going to make a difference for anything, especially in light of the way the air traffic controllers, FAA and NORAD were sharing and processing the information.

When they did launch the fighters, the jets didnt even know where to go, and ended up heading in the wrong direction.

I will say that knowing this information now about the FAA and NORAD, etc. makes me a little freakish about all the times I flew since 9/11.




Edited 8/11/2004 10:16 am ET ET by debateguy

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Wed, 08-11-2004 - 10:17am
This is another reason why I do not trust John Kerry and could never vote for him.

The more I know, the less I like him.

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Wed, 08-11-2004 - 11:55am


Must be why the polls are so close - because the more I know of Kerry, the more I like him.

I am a registered independent at the moment, but there is no way my head, heart or conscience would ever allow me to vote for Bush and I'm not the only "swing voter" I know who's been galvanized by this election.

One thing has become very clear to me-Bush supporters want to win so badly they will support anything he does, no matter how inept. They refuse to step back and take a good hard look at this man. It's frightening. I hope this country isn't really as blind as parts of it appear to be.

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