Kerry lied to get purple heart?

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Kerry lied to get purple heart?
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:33pm

The records should be able to shed some light on this if Kerry chooses to open them to the public.


http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/28856.htm


'Larry Thurlow, the skipper of a boat trailing Kerry's, says in the book that he saw Kerry suffer a buttocks wound earlier that day in 1969 when he was hit by fragments from his own grenade while trying to destroy a Viet Cong rice cache.


"He dishonestly transferred the time and cause of the injury to coincide with the action later in the day and claimed that the cause of the injury was the mine exploding during the action," the book claims.

In Kerry's version of the incident, he says a mine struck his swift boat - wounding him in the buttocks and arm.

Kerry maintains he braved enemy fire from both shores to race to the bow of the boat and pluck Rassman, who had fallen overboard, out of the water.


But, the book says, "Many participants in the incident state that neither weapons fire nor a mine explosion occurred near Kerry during the incident.

"Unless one believes in the amazing coincidence that Kerry got two wounds in the same place on the same day, he lied to get the Purple Heart," the authors say.

Rassman is backing Kerry's presidential candidacy and he supports Kerry's version of the rescue.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 5:22pm
Not arguing that - was just pointing out that the children who were said to be collateral damage in Iraq - and was asking him what it would be called for the children there. Maybe I should have included his quote to clarify what I was replying to.
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Registered: 08-07-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 6:24pm
According to my calculations, a single person making $5.15 an hour, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks, would pay $176.00 in federal income tax. Please show me how it would be zero.


< Mininum wage workers are not paying any income tax, so they are not going to get any tax breaks. The top few percent of income earners pay the bulk of taxes, so they are.>

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 6:35pm
allianor wrote - "According to my calculations, a single person making $5.15 an hour, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks, would pay $176.00 in federal income tax. Please show me how it would be zero."


The IRS tax calculator at http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96196,00.html

produces the following result...

Based on the information you previously entered, your anticipated income tax for 2004 is $276. If you do not change your current withholding arrangement, you will have $0 withheld for 2004, leaving $276 due when you file your return. You should adjust your withholding on a new Form W-4 as follows:

For the only job you entered (which has a projected salary of $10,712): 0 allowances.

Check the “Single” box on your Form W-4.

Assuming these recommended allowance(s) are in effect for the rest of 2004, your expected refund should be about $25. Following this recommendation will ensure that the amount withheld from your wages will cover all of your projected tax liability while minimizing your refund.




Edited 8/17/2004 6:36 pm ET ET by truemobile

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Tue, 08-17-2004 - 6:37pm

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 6:39pm
Those shells date back to the 1980's. They aren't evidence of stockpiles of weapons or weapons programs that we were told Saddam was currently developing. The same as the one David Kay refers to here:

"David Kay, who quit as head of the Iraq Survey Group earlier this year, has criticized U.S. intelligence agencies for failing to accurately gauge Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological arms programs. In January, he told a Senate panel: "It turns out we were all wrong."

Yesterday, Mr. Kay said: "It is hard to know if this is one that just was overlooked — and there were always some that were overlooked, we knew that — or if this was one that came from a hidden stockpile. I rather doubt that because it appears the insurgents didn't even know they had a chemical round."



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Registered: 08-15-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 6:59pm
Yes they are. They're paying FICA which is what is being borrowed to run our country right now. No FICA, no big bush war.
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Registered: 08-07-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 7:03pm
OK you came up with a higher tax than I did. Surely you recognize either way, my figures or yours, this is not NO income tax, it is some income tax.

< Based on the information you previously entered, your anticipated income tax for 2004 is $276. >

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 7:15pm
allianor wrote - "OK you came up with a higher tax than I did. Surely you recognize either way, my figures or yours, this is not NO income tax, it is some income tax."

Please read the ENTIRE message, there is a $25 refund due the person. I didn't check any fields in the initial form, and there was a notice (which I presented to you in the my initial reply) indicating that $25 would be refunded if single was checked in the W4 see "Assuming these recommended allowance(s) are in effect for the rest of 2004, your expected refund should be about $25."

Thus the tax due is -$25 according to the IRS, not $176 as you erroneously concluded or $276 as you again erroneously concluded I concluded.

Since his taxes are -$25, how much do you think Kerry should cut?

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Registered: 08-07-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 7:24pm
Getting a partial refund of taxes witheld is not the same as paying no tax. The tax witheld is your money. If you get it ALL back, you are paying no income taxes.

Your previous post included this;

"Based on the information you previously entered, your anticipated income tax for 2004 is $276. If you do not change your current withholding arrangement, you will have $0 withheld for 2004, leaving $276 due when you file your return. You should adjust your withholding on a new Form W-4 as follows:"

That means a tax of $276.00, per your own post.

If the theoretical person adjusts their witholding, they will get a partial refund of $25.00.

I dunno, how much do you think their taxes should be cut? $276.00? Zero? But lets not perpetuate an incorrect idea that minimum wage earners pay no taxes. They do. however small.





< Thus the tax due is -$25 according to the IRS, not $176 as you erroneously concluded or $276 as you again erroneously concluded I concluded.

Since his taxes are -$25, how much do you think Kerry should cut? >




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Registered: 06-17-2004
Tue, 08-17-2004 - 9:19pm
FICA is not income tax.

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