Kerry lied to get purple heart?

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Kerry lied to get purple heart?
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:33pm

The records should be able to shed some light on this if Kerry chooses to open them to the public.


http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/28856.htm


'Larry Thurlow, the skipper of a boat trailing Kerry's, says in the book that he saw Kerry suffer a buttocks wound earlier that day in 1969 when he was hit by fragments from his own grenade while trying to destroy a Viet Cong rice cache.


"He dishonestly transferred the time and cause of the injury to coincide with the action later in the day and claimed that the cause of the injury was the mine exploding during the action," the book claims.

In Kerry's version of the incident, he says a mine struck his swift boat - wounding him in the buttocks and arm.

Kerry maintains he braved enemy fire from both shores to race to the bow of the boat and pluck Rassman, who had fallen overboard, out of the water.


But, the book says, "Many participants in the incident state that neither weapons fire nor a mine explosion occurred near Kerry during the incident.

"Unless one believes in the amazing coincidence that Kerry got two wounds in the same place on the same day, he lied to get the Purple Heart," the authors say.

Rassman is backing Kerry's presidential candidacy and he supports Kerry's version of the rescue.

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 6:29pm

Apologies, the FICA

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Registered: 08-07-2004
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 6:57pm
Apology accepted.

< Apologies, the FICA point should have been directed to sandnsea. >


But this part still has me confused. The answer posted about $25.00 was that a hypothetical case person would receive a $25.00 refund on taxes witheld, but thet they would not receive a full refund of all income tax witheld. Therefore the IRS would keep a portion of tax witheld, therefore this person would be paying income taxes.

I went to www.irs.gov & calculated the tax liability for a minimum wage earner, single with no dependents, the result was that there is a tax liability. I did not rely on truemobiles post for my answer.

MINIMUM WAGE PEOPLE DO PAY INCOME TAX, whether or not you are willing to accept that.

< I posted a link to my information and will rest my case with that. If you want to believe that truemobiles post showing that some minimum wage earners will pay all of $25 disproves my statement about them not paying income taxes, please yourself.>

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Registered: 07-02-2004
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 11:10pm
Well what about the cases where a couple with say two or three kids are stuck working minimum wage jobs, or even say $6 or $7/hour jobs, those people are totally paying more taxes than they should have to. Who can survive on that income? Sad thing is it would just be easier for them to go on welfare then we can all pay for those people to survive.
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Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 11:33pm
bunny_girl56096 wrote - "Well what about the cases where a couple with say two or three kids are stuck working minimum wage jobs, or even say $6 or $7/hour jobs, those people are totally paying more taxes than they should have to. Who can survive on that income? Sad thing is it would just be easier for them to go on welfare then we can all pay for those people to survive."

Bunny,

A couple in that situation would receive reverse income tax (through the earned income tax credit http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96456,00.html ), receive food stamps, receive free health care, receive free housing assistance, and free pre-school (headstart), likely energy assistance as well and if the children are young additional free stuff (WIC), plus free lunch and breakfast (in most schools).

Yup awful country America, ain't it :-O

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Registered: 08-07-2004
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 11:44pm
Yes, they would get the earned income tax credit.

Do you mean medicaid? IF, they get medicaid, it would only be for the children, not the parents. God forbid that a parent in this situation get sick. They truly can't afford to.

Maybe they would get food stamps, do you know what the income cutoff for this is?

No, they would not automatically get housing assistance. Section 8 is being drastically cut BTW.

Yes the children get Headstart.

No, no energy assistance, under which program do you think this happens???

Here they get reduced cost lunch, not free, and no breakfast.

Exaggerations. Why can't we stick to reality instead of stereotypes?




Bunny,

A couple in that situation would receive reverse income tax (through the earned income tax credit http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96456,00.html ), receive food stamps, receive free health care, receive free housing assistance, and free pre-school (headstart), likely energy assistance as well and if the children are young additional free stuff (WIC), plus free lunch and breakfast (in most schools).

Yup awful country America, ain't it :-O

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 08-18-2004 - 11:49pm
Bunny,

I can only report from my experiences most of which occur in my state :-) Energy assistance is very common in Connecticut, and in much of the Northeast... I'm unsure as to how it's handled elsewhere :-) All our local schools serve breakfast, and lunch. The majority of children on assistance get their meals free. You may have a different experience, I recall a friend who was on WIC and what today would be TANF complaining after moving to SC that benefits weren't as good there... though she still had free housing.
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Registered: 06-17-2004
Thu, 08-19-2004 - 5:39pm
58 million

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Registered: 08-07-2004
Thu, 08-19-2004 - 6:03pm
Nice numbers. But there is a difference between 58 mil paying no income tax & a single minimim wage earner paying income tax. You apparently want to say that because 58 mil pay none, none of them pay. It's simply not true.

< 58 million working Americans pay no income tax. >

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Registered: 07-02-2004
Thu, 08-19-2004 - 6:37pm
Well I am just grateful that my husband and I aren't in that situation(of earning little income) because as he is an immigrant and not a citizen yet we as a family are not exactly entitled to things such as medical assistance and such because if the INS ever decided to check into that we could be responsible for every penny of help we received. Even though I am a citizen and our daughter is as well they could see us getting help like that as him receiving "State Funds" and decide that he is liable for all of that or else that he should be deported. Atleast that is what the INS has led us to believe.
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Registered: 06-17-2004
Thu, 08-19-2004 - 7:03pm

<<You apparently want to say that because 58 mil pay none, none of them pay. It's simply not true. >>


It's pedantic to press that claim over a whopping $25 a year.

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