Kerry lied to get purple heart?

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Kerry lied to get purple heart?
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:33pm

The records should be able to shed some light on this if Kerry chooses to open them to the public.


http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/28856.htm


'Larry Thurlow, the skipper of a boat trailing Kerry's, says in the book that he saw Kerry suffer a buttocks wound earlier that day in 1969 when he was hit by fragments from his own grenade while trying to destroy a Viet Cong rice cache.


"He dishonestly transferred the time and cause of the injury to coincide with the action later in the day and claimed that the cause of the injury was the mine exploding during the action," the book claims.

In Kerry's version of the incident, he says a mine struck his swift boat - wounding him in the buttocks and arm.

Kerry maintains he braved enemy fire from both shores to race to the bow of the boat and pluck Rassman, who had fallen overboard, out of the water.


But, the book says, "Many participants in the incident state that neither weapons fire nor a mine explosion occurred near Kerry during the incident.

"Unless one believes in the amazing coincidence that Kerry got two wounds in the same place on the same day, he lied to get the Purple Heart," the authors say.

Rassman is backing Kerry's presidential candidacy and he supports Kerry's version of the rescue.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:16pm
I am glad that you have your place reserved.

But as for me being a military member I can sleep peacefully knowing that Heaven awaits me.

But all that is besides the point - I was not trying to get in a fight with you nor was I trying to make you upset - I was strictly saying that I know what those in the military around me are saying. I have been to Walter Reed Army Hospital and I have talked to those coming home from the war. So yes I know that they believe in Bush and that they would GLADLY welcome him back as their Commander in Chief.
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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:24pm
Yes and I have talked to kids in my hometown who have come home from Iraq, and they would gladly go in and haul Bush out of the White House tomorrow if it were legal to do so. Did you talk to the Democrats too? What if one of them decides to run for President in 30 years? Are you going to denigrate them if they came home after 4 months of their SECOND tour? Are you going to denigrate them if their wound doesn't blow off those limbs? Are you going to denigrate them if they got blown up on the way to the chow hall or the latrine? How low will you go when one of these Iraqi troops turns out to be a Democrat and runs for office? You can't seriously believe ONLY Republicans serve can you? Because you only have to look as far as the White House to recognize THAT isn't true.

Don't play your little intimidation games with me. Take your "patriotic sympathy card" and, well, Teresa knows what to do with them. It's a bunch of phony baloney, as phony as that pretend cowboy in the White House.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:25pm
sandnsea wrote - "Here's his records. They've been here since the beginning of the year, at least."

NO, those are at best redacted copies of SOME of his record, Kerry should do what Democrats demanded Bush do, and release his records so 3rd parties may fully vet and review his record and compare his stories with swiftvet stories.

As to Bush & McCain, I recall some of what you are stating, though not the black baby... I seriously doubt any republican is concerned about the race of any child legit or not. Racism is a Democratic concern generally.

It is time the Kerry supporters told Kerry to come up to the plate as Bush has and to release his records for 3rd party vetting. Democrats railed forever about how Bush needed to do this, well he did, now it's Kerrys turn... lets see... is Kerry too much a coward to all real review of his record? Things not at Kerrys website are unredacted source documents certified by the military, including for medals referalls and witness statements.

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Registered: 03-31-2003
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:25pm
It's pretty obvious that whoever wrote the press release got it wrong. Obviously Rassmann knows which boat he was on. I think the important part of the story is the part where Kerry pulls him out of the water, saving his life. I guess I don't get your point in raising the issue.
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Registered: 06-17-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:26pm

What I think is pretty low is the smears and attacks against private citizens for having the audacity to stand up and say that Kerry's Vietnam tales are more fiction than reality. If you notice, the taking points are ad hominem attacks against his 'band of brothers' and not taking issue with their facts. If Kerry had those on his side, he'd have no reason to keep his military records under seal.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:34pm
I am not trying to "denigrate" anyone for their military service - all I said was that he was drafted and that there are many other members who have also received the Purple Heart. And no I won't stand in anyone's way who wants to try to run for president - it is a free world and I support everyone's rights. I choose who I vote for based on what they will do for the military and for the country - if that happens to be a republican so be it - if it is ever a democrat then I will gladly vote for them. But since it seems that so many civilians think that the military is expendable and is not a priority than I must ensure that I vote for who will do the best for it.

I have spoken with many democrats and actually some of them have said that they will vote Bush because Kerry is so fake. Then there are others who will vote Kerry strictly from party loyalty. I am not trying to swing anyone's vote either way - simply speaking my mind.

I didn't realize that I had a "patriotic sympathy card" - didn't know that they existed. I thought that everyone in America was a patriot but I guess that we have found one who is not. Obviously you are not a card carrying member and for that I hold great sympathy for you. Great to know that Kerry draws those people who don't believe in America.

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:40pm

Welcome AFWirekitty!


Thanks for your service!

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:41pm
LOL! You think a few carefully selected records settle the matter? Why won't he release all his records like Bush has done?

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:44pm
You are very welcome.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 4:46pm
Meant to say senator - got too ahead of myself.

Here is a little link for you though.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030630-113746-7072r.htm

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