Kerry lied to get purple heart?

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Kerry lied to get purple heart?
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Tue, 08-10-2004 - 5:33pm

The records should be able to shed some light on this if Kerry chooses to open them to the public.


http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/28856.htm


'Larry Thurlow, the skipper of a boat trailing Kerry's, says in the book that he saw Kerry suffer a buttocks wound earlier that day in 1969 when he was hit by fragments from his own grenade while trying to destroy a Viet Cong rice cache.


"He dishonestly transferred the time and cause of the injury to coincide with the action later in the day and claimed that the cause of the injury was the mine exploding during the action," the book claims.

In Kerry's version of the incident, he says a mine struck his swift boat - wounding him in the buttocks and arm.

Kerry maintains he braved enemy fire from both shores to race to the bow of the boat and pluck Rassman, who had fallen overboard, out of the water.


But, the book says, "Many participants in the incident state that neither weapons fire nor a mine explosion occurred near Kerry during the incident.

"Unless one believes in the amazing coincidence that Kerry got two wounds in the same place on the same day, he lied to get the Purple Heart," the authors say.

Rassman is backing Kerry's presidential candidacy and he supports Kerry's version of the rescue.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:23pm
As do your hate mongering posts.

As for patriotism I stated that everyone in America is a patriot. Once again please do not make up things that I have not said. Please reread and actually let it sink in this time before you decide to jump to extremes.

"That is the attitude of every military person I've ever talked to." Now who is trying to classify people? Hmmmm practice what you preach.
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Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:24pm
That's just not true. First, let me tell you I live in the same town as Jim Rassmann. He's a kind, decent, honest guy. Second, let me tell you that I was watching that event, live on CSpan, when it happened. Jim Rassmann clearly said he was blown overboard. And John Kerry said, "man, we didn't know we'd lost you". They hadn't spoken about that event in 35 years. It was the first time they had seen each other since Vietnam. Their story hasn't changed one bit. And how is it that one of the guys who now say there was no gunfire, managed to get a Bronze Star of his own in that exact same exchange???

Tell me, back in 1971, when Nixon was desperate to smear Kerry, why didn't all these allegations come out then? Where were the guys saying John Kerry was lying about his Bronze Star? Where was the doctor saying the purple hearts were all self-inflicted? How do these guys all have such different memories now then they did then?

Just unreal. And people wonder why Democrats are so angry.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:28pm
"As far as the people in military hospitals cheering for Bush - right. They're not dumb enough to say anything against King George." We are allowed to voice our opinions about him - and those people do not like Kerry, plain and simple. There is a way to question the war and then then is a way to PROTEST the war. Please keep in mind that Kerry was not in the MILITARY when he was protesting the war - he had already gotten out - thus he was FREE to say whatever he wanted. "That's what Kerry did, he questioned a war and 30 years later they're trying to crucify him." If he was so GUNG HO to enlist - then why would he question it?

"He made a Big mistake, he bombed Iraq without enough information and/or with the wrong information." Last time I checked we were hit first - remember the Towers. What we did was simply strike back at those who decided that they would have the balls to attack America.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:29pm
Except "those people" who hate America. That's what you said. I'm not trying to classify people. Just telling you about people I've talked to. See, I never said or implied that there aren't troops who support Bush. But you imply ALL troops support Bush and would go back in and fight if he asked them to. That's what you said. That is the difference. You try to claim the entire military as Bush supporters in order to make people who disagree with Bush insignificant and unpatriotic. It's slimy and sleezy. And not true. A Democrat died for your freedom. Think on that one.
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Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:32pm

FOI doesn't cover private military or medical records. Kerry has to sign a release for them to be made available.

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Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:34pm
<"He made a Big mistake, he bombed Iraq without enough information and/or with the wrong information." Last time I checked we were hit first - remember the Towers. What we did was simply strike back at those who decided that they would have the balls to attack America.>

You are in the military and you think we "simply struck back at those who decided that they would have the balls to attack America". I can hardly believe what I'm reading. Don't you know that Iraq has no more connection to A.Q. than any other country in the Middle East, perhaps less so. UNBELIEVABLE!!!


iVillage Member
Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:36pm
I stated that all of the ones that I HAVE SPOKEN with will vote Bush - "But you imply ALL troops support Bush and would go back in and fight if he asked them to" - I will not try to speak for the military as a whole - because I being an intelligent individual know that is not possible. I also know that the spouses that I have spoken with also plan to vote Bush, now I am sure that there are plenty of Kerry supporters and when I meet one in the military I will let you know. Remember Democrats, Republicans, non-partisan, Christian, Catholic, etc. have died for your freedom too - we are all made up of different ideas and thoughts and that is what America is all about. Thus the reason why I can post my feelings and why you are allowed to be disdainfull towards me. There is a way to discuss and a way to be obtuse - I myself choose to discuss.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:41pm
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The people who flew into those buildings were from SAUDI ARABIA. Man oh man. If Bush hadn't been convinced Saddam was the threat BEFORE 9/11, maybe he would have paid more attention to bin laden at the time. But that Bush crowd was convinced of Saddam's complicity to everything in the ME. Turns out it just wasn't true. They made a huge miscalculation of Saddam's cooperation with al qaeda and it cost us an attack on our country AND an unnecessary war.

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Registered: 08-15-2004
Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:51pm
No, you said "we". "We" this and "we" that and "we" would fight again if George Bush asked us to. And that Kerry attracts "those people" who hate America, and then questioned mine and my family's service to this country. Just for the record, seven uncles over the age of 75. You figure it out. Oh, and they HATE George Bush. As much or more than I do.
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Sun, 08-15-2004 - 5:56pm
What did we do after the First Bombing to the trade center? Did we act effectively then? Did we put a stop to terrorism? Could we have prevented the second bombing? "They made a huge miscalculation of Saddam's cooperation with al qaeda and it cost us an attack on our country AND an unnecessary war." Could we have prevented this?

Looking back at how things were handled will not change the here and now. We have to focus on what we can do to prevent further attacks. Is it to sit back and not be preemptive - only time will tell. Is it to attack - that too only time will tell. Many wars are thought of as being futile or useless, but to those that they help they are thought of as necessary.

You will pick who you feel is right as will I - that is why every vote counts.

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