Kerry--Just like plumbers & const wkrs

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Kerry--Just like plumbers & const wkrs
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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 1:30am

Sen. John Kerry, resting for three days in Ketchum, Idaho, is coming off of a warmly received 15-day post-convention tour that brought him into contact with 300,000 people in 17 states.


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But comments Kerry made to reporters on the back of his campaign plane on Saturday suggest that elitism, uncontrollable events, and the power of incumbency remain risks.


Undeterred by the lack of wind that thwarted his plans to windsurf in Oregon on Saturday, Kerry said on his plane that he would return to Oregon from Idaho on Monday or Tuesday to windsurf on the Columbia River Gorge.
"Once a year I like to do something fun," he said.

Throughout his campaign, Kerry has made it clear that he is not ready to cede to President Bush what Steve Rosenthal, the former political director of the AFL-CIO, once called "the hang test."

So whether it's been shooting pheasant, playing hockey, tossing a football, or riding a Harley, Kerry has been presented to the public as fun-loving, athletic, outdoorsy, and, most importantly, the kind of Democrat who crosses the "testosterone threshold" needed to be commander-in-chief.

But the exotic nature of some of the sports he plays (say, kite-surfing in Nantucket) and the great lengths he goes in order to play them (say, flying from Idaho to Oregon to windsurf), can have the unintended effect of making him seem out of touch with the hard-pressed middle class whose cares he says have been his concern.

As his plane was flying from Oregon to Idaho on Saturday, Kerry defended his taste in sports, saying, "The guys who do it are all local guys -- plumbers, construction workers."
Asked if these regular folks fly from one state to another, the husband of the condiment heiress downplayed the cost, saying, "What? 250 bucks for a ticket?"

Luckily for Kerry, the moment was not on camera. But it was the kind of moment -- if captured on camera -- that could undo months of work. (Think of George H.W. Bush looking perplexed at a super-market scanner in 1992).

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Kerry_Davis.html

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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 4:45pm
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I don't appreciate it, I've just come to expect it.

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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 5:03pm
CNN (formerly called Clinton News Network) was what I posted from. Not from any e-mail.

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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 5:08pm
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All with the backing of the Democrats; some of the same which are trying to backslide now.

You can't have it both ways. The Democrats wanted to do the same thing in 1998. And they also supported this war since for 12 years Sadaam wasn't complying. Kind of late to try to tell Bush he made a mistake since their support is part of the reason we actually went to war.

So, how many more chances should we have given Sadaam?


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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 5:12pm
Wow! That is really condescending. I was just reading through the thread and I think your "Duh" comment qualifies as offensive. As does your non-chalant "Glad you appreciate it." Weren't you telling people not to post things that were rude and offensive last week?
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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 8:55pm
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Very dramatic.

Dramatic yes but very true.

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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 8:57pm
I windsurf. Got my board and sail for fifty bucks at a yard sale. Guys in my office keep asking me to borrow it.
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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 10:05pm
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LOL I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

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Mon, 08-16-2004 - 10:38pm

Lani, if you want to know how condescending I can be, I'm sure a trip through the archives would blow off your ears. Just because a poster has a CL in front of their name doesn't mean they are some sort of

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Tue, 08-17-2004 - 10:45am
I am at a loss to see what else could have been done.

We were just attacked, and all of the intelligence, both from our own intelligence agencies and from three separate foreign agencies all said that Iraq had WMD's. We only now know that this information was incorrect, or that they just dont know what happened to them.

Hussein himself had used chemical agents to kill tens of thousands of Kurds, making him appear to be an even greater threat to use or distribute any weapons that he had at his disposal.

Iraq was under embargo for over a decade, and had dozens of UN resolutions passed, which it was supposed to fully comply with, but instead thumbed their nose at. During the 12 years, Iraq violated 17 separate resolutions dozens of times, and never fully cooperated with the UN weapons inspectors. Hans Blix himself even admitted to this. He said that he was not able to locate any materials in the sites that his teams had searched, but that the Iraqi Gov't was not very cooperative in the effort, and did not produce any documentation for the chemical and biological agents that they supposedly destroyed, which was called for in the resolutions.

They purchased weapons, which we now know were from Russia and France among other countries during the imposed embargo.

They looted the Oil for Food program to the tune of $10.5 Billion dollars, and paid off people within many different countries in this ever growing scandal.

If you are talking about someone that has a broader range of choices, it cannot be Kerry as he himself even said that he still thinks that it was the correct course of action, and that he would vote for it again, and he would even have sent the troops into Iraq knowing that there were no WMD's.

I dont see your point.

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Tue, 08-17-2004 - 11:03am
So you can tell others that they are being offensive and demeaning but others cannot point that out to you?

Didn't say you should babysit, but you also shouldn't defend yourself saying that you are a real person so therefore your talking down to someone should be justified when the other REAL people on this board and in other threads are chastized for their similar comments