What will you do if Bush wins?

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Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
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Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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Registered: 04-11-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 7:59am
Very interesting reading. I hope this will open alot of peoples eyes.
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Registered: 08-29-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 8:44am
Thanks, dclarkin ... hope you'll enjoy a little bit of humor on the same topic ... sad thing is, it's true - and isn't a funny issue.


Come and listen to my story 'bout a boy named Bush.

His IQ was zero and his head was up his tush.

He drank like a fish while he motored all about.

But it didn't really matter 'cuz his daddy bailed him out.

DUI, that is. Criminal record. Cover-up.

Well, the first thing you know young Georgie goes to Yale.

He can't spell his name but they never let him fail.

He spends all his time hangin' out with student folk.

And that's when he learns how to snort a line of coke.

Blow, that is. White gold. Nose candy.

The next thing you know there's a war in Vietnam.

His daddy says, George, you can stay at home with Mom.

Let the common people go to get maimed and scarred.

We'll buy you a spot in the Texas Air Guard.

Cushy, that is. Country clubs. Nose candy.

Twenty years later Dubya gets a little bored.

He trades in the booze, says that Jesus is his Lord.

He says, Now the White House is where I wanta be.

So he calls his daddy's friends and they call the GOP.

Gun owners, that is. Falwell. Jesse Helms.

Come November 7, the election's runnin' late.

Kin folks say, Jeb, give the boy your state!

Don't let those colored folks get into the polls.

So they put up barricades so they couldn't punch their holes.

Chads, that is. Duval County. Miami-Dade.

Before the votes are counted five Supremes step in.

They tell all the voters, Hey, we want George to win.

Stop counting votes is their solemn invocation.

And that's how George finally got his coronation.

Rigged, that is. Illegitimate. No moral authority.

Y'all come back to vote now. Ya hear?

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-11-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:05am
Unfortunately I live in the Jeb's state. The whole country thought we were a bunch of idiots during the last election. I hope it doesn't happen again.
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:25am
Dear Venus:

1. On schools...fact-if you were my neighbor and had ten kids, our property taxes would be EXACTLY THE SAME for school tax levies. Now, where is the fairness when I have no kids and the neighbor has ten with me paying the exact same taxes to support the schools? Good, bad or ugly, our population is OUT OF CONTROL, so maybe a pay as you go system for those wanting large families would give them pause for thought. The tax code in this nation right now is set up to totally benefit the family, and the larger the family, the more breaks built into the system...maybe it is time to reduce that trend in our population by making those with lots of kids pay their own way, instead of shifting a great deal of the burden off onto other more responsible citizens.

2. Look at the old people on Social Security right now...through their strong lobby, they have steadfastly refused to have their own benefits cut in any way, and in fact keep demanding more and more. The system could have been repaired and made solvent six years ago with an across the board six percent cut of benefits to all current and future beneficiaries, but the elder generation who have been the ones DRAINING THE SYSTEM as they did not contribute their fair share WERE OUTRAGED and refused to go along with their own benefits being cut, insisting instead that those coming along behind them foot the bill and the penalties. Now it would take and across the board cut of 14 percent to solve the problem, and still this generation of recipients refuses any discussion of their own benefits being cut. Tell me, why is it fair that those of us putting large sums of money into the system now are being told just in the last week by Greenspan that our benefits might not be there for us, or we might have to postpone being allowed to collect on them? When I started working and entered into the system some 30 years, I was told I could collect my benefits at 61, then the mark was moved to 63, then to 65, and now they are talking maybe 67 or 68....all because this generation of elderly Americans are a selfish lot of greedy individuals who thought only of themselves.

Lets look at the some 14 million illegal aliens in this country...maybe if Bush really wants to solve some problems, we would be better served being out of Iraq, and instead be putting all those Billions into a serious wall on our Southern Border, and once said wall was up and properly guarded, the task of gaithering up and sending back home all illegals would better serve our nations security and financial well being. Do the math, we currently have over 14 million illegals, which is more than five percent of the population base...most of them are working under the table and contributing nothing to our nation, while overburdening our social service programs. Get rid of five percent of our population base that is here illegally anyway, and you should be able to pretty well eliminate unemployment in the entire nation.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:30am
Personally, if Gore had been selected (he was elected), think that IF WE HAD GONE TO IRAQ it would have been with a true coalition, instead of the way we went in with Bush, and I think we would have had a much better long term plan for the war and its aftermath. I find it sad that there has not been far more rage exhibited towards Rumsfield, and cannot believe he is still holding office as Secretary of Defense.
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:35am
I always find this an interesting question, as most people who complain about environmental issues have not actually done anything to improve the environment, or to stop those polluting our world.

Couple things I have done:

Formed an organization that is still going, though I handed over its reins to someone else that in my reign as its president raised enough funds to give some 400,000 trees away during various earth week celebrations.

Formed a non-profit group that took on the NRC and two major companies to force a 70 million dollar clean up of a site in Southern Ohio that had been illegally contaminated.

So, when it comes to that what have you done question, feel my own efforst to leave behind a cleaner world for those following behind speak for themselves.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:54am
Sadly, have to agree with almost everything you say...for those that say we are better off under Bush, lets look at a list of realities:

1. Find it rather sad that Collin Powell had to cancel his trip to Olympics because of our world image at this point in our history.

2. A cleric brokered a peace that allowed a man who had hundreds of our troops murdered to be granted a full amnesty...even worse, because of Bush's lack of vision, our troops now have an interim Iraqi Government as their defacto Commander and Chief...funny how the press so far has not bothered to point this out to the citizens of America during this election year.

3. Over five million Americans have joined the ranks of those without medical coverage during Bush's term in office.

4. Just in the last year alone, 1.3 million more Americans slid into poverty, 800,000 of them CHILDREN.

5. Millions of good paying manufacturing jobs have been outsourced, with the government actually subsidizing the costs to do so. Those jobs when replaced are being replaced with low paying, no benefits service industry jobs. In Bush's time in office, we have seen a negative 1.2 million job growth rate...even with all the jobs he wishes to claim he created this year. Claims in last eleven months the economy is growing at record rate, but fails to mention that in the last three months that growth has stopped, and actually started to retard.

6. Personal bankrupcy in the middle-class sector are at and all time high.

7. We have the head of the Federal Reserve, Allen Greenspan telling us in no uncertain terms that for those of us currently between 45-55 (the remaining boomer generation) that our benefits may not be there for us when we are ready to live out our Golden Years.

8. We have lost more than one American soldier per day during Bush's term in office.

9. After the fact, we find out that President Bush on August 6th,2001 was given a Daily Presidential Briefing that stated in very clear and concise language that terrorists were wanting to use planes to crash into buildings, and yet he gave no warning, he made no contact with the FAA, failed to send out a memo urging airports to tighten their security efforts. Maybe if he had, our world right now would be so so different.

10. The stock market has been FLAT for the entire Bush presidency...how much more of a vote of no confidence does a nation need than that reality.

11. Despite two reports from his own people that say the abuse scandel shows failure clear up the chain of command, Bush insists in allowing Rumsfield to stay in office.

12. Cheney is still refusing to allow America to see the records involving his close ties and working relationship when drafting the administrations new energy policy when they first came into power.

13. We have a man in office who was not elected by the majority of American voters, but instead was selected by the electorial college.

The list could go on, but how much more does someone need to know to see that we have to vote for a change in direction this November. The president gets FAILING GRADES at every turn, and we as a nation simply cannot afford four more years of the same.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 9:56am
With all due respect intended, your constant flow of WELCOME TO THE BOARDS is very distracting to the threads. Is it really necessary to greet each and every person, instead of the occassional group hello to new posters?
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 10:00am
The key to Kerry winning is going to be in getting out the vote, so if you or anyone else reading this wants to help, A) make sure you vote, and B) get involved by making sure 2, 3 or even ten of your neighbors make it to the voting polls on election day as well. It is going to be a VERY CLOSE election, and if we truly want Bush gone, we have to make sure we do more than we would normally do to make that happen...help Kerry in getting out the vote by making sure your neighbors are registered to vote, or by car pooling to the polls that day, or plan an election party at your house, and admittance is one of those stickers that says "I voted Today". Check to see if a senior citizen needs a ride to be able to vote.
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Sun, 08-29-2004 - 10:04am
You know, it was funny going back to that sad night. I watched the polling results, and saw them award Florida to Al Gore...then things got rather strange. Someone from the Republican party appeared on CNN saying it was too early to be giving Gore Florida, then laid out in detail EXACTLY how George Bush was going to win the state, even to the point of stating which polling places would give him the vote....strange huh?

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