What will you do if Bush wins?

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Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
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Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:11am
Besides do his best to wreck it...not much.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-27-2003
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:16am
When does the government or the insurance companies pay for an abortion?
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Registered: 05-24-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:17am
Cry about it, I'm sure that will fix all your tax problems. It's not fair!!! I have to help with taxes and government programs like everyone else does, WHAAA WHAAAAA WHAAAAAAAA! I don't care how unfair you think it is, all tax payers have to contribute tax money to programs and things that don't effect them, Booo Hoooo. You can go ahead and try to make the system work better, but only contributing tax money to what affects each individual's personal problems isn't going to work. You should try to improve the system if you despise it soo, don't cry to me about it. I pay for alot that I don't think I should have to, but oh well, that's life in this country. If you don't like it, go live somewhere that everyone only thinks of #1, and offers help and support only to themselves. Very selfish, very self serving.

I think those people need the extra hand, and I'm glad to help them out. I'm sure I would want the extra help if I were in a position to use one of our tax paid programs. As for my Grandfather with 10 kids, he did a very good job taking care of his family, paying taxes, putting them all through school, raising them to take care of themselves, being a contributing citizen to our country. Now I don't know how much tax went to education while his kids were in school, the youngest of them is in her 40's. Somehow I doubt his ten kids were putting any more of a financial strain on the country then anyone else at the time. He worked, he held insurance, was never on wellfare, or any other gov program like that, and I'm sure he paid a significant amount of taxes in the time he was around.

You talk like all of us terrible parents with children are milking the system for all it's worth. Some how I doubt you are milking the system any less than any other average person in this country. I know there are those who will use the system for all they can, but pointing your finger at all the "greedy" parents, elderly, foreign citizens, dissabled, mentally ill, or anyone else that gets tax help is not going to help. And not all people getting assistence are trying to bleed your poor little pocketbook dry.

Venus

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Registered: 04-11-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:23am


It would depend on how many people were leaving and entering the work force. A surplus of jobs is a good thing. It means more options for those looking for work or for those who want to move up, or just want a change. It also cuts down on the time it takes for someone who is unemployed to find a decent job. Also employers can't afford to be so picky and have to offer better incentives to keep ahead of the competition.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:31am
Dear Venus:

I have no problems helping those who cannot help themselves, and do so on a regular basis.

I do though have serious problems with the very real fact that families feel those of us without kids (married with no children, and/or single) in some way owe it to the American family unit to sacrifice for their behalf. You cannot tell me it is fair that I have to pay the same school taxes with no kids that a neighbor with ten kids pays. Does not take a rocket scientist to see who is getting the bargain out of the deal.

Social Security...like it or not, the system was/is meant to be a forced savings plan for our Golden Years...in short, what we and our employers put in is supposed to be earmarked for us. With that as the basic premise, where am I unfair in feeling that my contributions for my Golden Years should not be being used to dole out money to those who underpaid into the system? I have worked hard, and do not think it asking to much that money I paid into the system under the agreement it would be there to provide me with an income in my retirement is there when and at the time I am supposed to retire. Already I have had that time pushed back a total of four years, and now they want to push it back another 2-3 years. Fair is fair, and if so many of todays seniors failed to properly planned for their Golden Years, where are their families...is it not their responsibility to be picking up the slack, instead of expecting the rest of us to step in and take care of it?

The basic premise here in America is fairness and justice for all...that is what I and many other childless Americans are asking for...fairness. It is time that we stop being saddled with the costs of subsidizing another citizens choice to have and raise a large family.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-24-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:43am
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Date Total Number

1973 167,000

1979 711,142

1993 1,057,255

1996 1,220,000 >>

The numbers are all nice but they are not showing relation to population growth, other contributing factors, etc. every year population increases, and if these baby's were all born it would have increased even more. Plus even when abortion was illegal, it was still performed. And who really knows how many, since it was all done illegaly, under the table.

Venus


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Registered: 05-12-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:45am
actually they say the effect of global warming is supposed to mean that the fluctutations are more drastic, I remember when I questioned one of my college instructors on a sub zero day in october, and I was so cold I could barely move. I truly do not undesrstand the effects of global warming, and do I take it as the most serious threat to our way of life? no. I do not.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-12-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:52am
first of all, I did not call abyone ignorant, I stated that anyone supportin gBush would deny his (meaning Bush's) ignorance to the topic.

Second, Sure i contest what this guy says. Just because he is a department head at a college means he is chock-full-o-fact???? come on now. that is like saying all T-shirts that have the Nike emblem are of higher quality than all others that don't.

third, Bush invests in weapons companies. his whole family is full of investors. It is common knowledge.
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Registered: 05-12-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:56am
tax breaks for companies who consistantly pollute our country... support in products of mass destruction, I know they seem clean cut, but those products sometimes contain some hazardous materials.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-12-2004
Mon, 08-30-2004 - 12:58am
ever hear of stock?

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