What will you do if Bush wins?
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What will you do if Bush wins?
| Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm |
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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Hello spitfirejane!
Welcome to the board, and thank you for serving your country!
Miffy - Co-CL For The Politics Today Board
Hi 5goslings!
Welcome to the board!
Miffy - Co-CL For The Politics Today Board
It is obvious from your post that you feel very passionate about your views, as many of us here on this board to...unfortunately, there are numerous flaws in your logic, and even more false facts.
First, it would not matter who was in the Oval Office on that fateful day in September almost three years ago today...our nation would have joined and come together as one as we always have in times of need and crisis. That is just a part of who we are as a nation and as a people...in short, it is a part of our backbone and our heritage.
You are fortunate to have your husband still working in a manufacturing job and making good money, since it is a know FACT that millions of our jobs in manufacturing have been lost under the Bush administration and Bush's policies. You can try to debate it, but hard to argue with Bush himself stating in a nationally televised address that out sourcing of our industrial/manufacturing base was/is good for our economy. Further, you can claim you have recieved great benefits from Bush's tax cuts, but again the numbers show that for most Middle Class Americans the tax cuts were a bandaid applied to a bleeding artery, and have not help most of us. Surely you cannot deny the very real facts that we have lost 1.2 million jobs under Bush, have seen over 5 million Middle Class Americans lose their health coverage, and another five million move from being in the middle class to sinking into poverty...just last month alone, 800,000 CHILDREN fell into the ranks of those living in poverty in our fine nation.
As for your statements about the military...happy for you that your son is home. I have various problems with this war and it's aftermath, but one looms far bigger than all the rest of them at this point in time. Your son is home, he was not there when a dramatic shift took place for our troops still in theatre. George Bush negotiated a transfer of power that took place in June that makes the Iraqi Interim Government the DEFACTO Commander and Chief of our American fighting forces currently on the ground in Iraq, and I have a serious problem with this, and even more serious doubts about a president that would allow this to occur. If we were in charge of our own troops, do you really think we would have allowed a rabid out of control cleric and his thugs to be granted full and complete Amnesty after having killed HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of our nation's fine young men and women in the armed forces?
You have your version of the 2,000 election, but the reality is, that facts support the fact that Bush DID NOT win the general election, the majority of Americans DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM...that is irrefutable no matter how you want to spin the issue.
In piecing together what you are trying to say, you logic fails. Kerry believes in pro choice. Curious, have you ever asked some within the pro-choice movement if we are morally for against abortion? See, even God in his infinite wisdom realized we as human beings had to be allowed free choice, which is HIS GIFT TO US. Yet, you and others want to take this greatest gift God could give us away, and instead have government regulate that choice for us. Problem in that, is then we are legislating morality, taking away God's gift of freedom of choice, and crossing the line between the separation of Church and State. Kerry is wise enough and smart enough to understand this nuance where as Bush is not.
Edwards as the VP and his wife lost their son in a tragic accident, and the two of them went to extreme efforts to bring two new lives into this world. They themselves I would venture to say are not pro-abortion, but they do support the right of women to have the God given right of freedom of choice. Kerry as a devout Catholic may not be comfortable with those of a Gay persuasion, but he and Vice President Dick Cheney both realize that those people should not be denied basic civil rights and liberties. A gay man or woman can die fighting for our country, but they cannot get married...please, we both know that is just not right, and far from being just.
Clinton greatly downsized the government, while Bush has greatly increased the size of our beaurocracy during his time in office, so who is it that really wants BIG GOVERNMENT. Just last week he signed into law by executive order a whole new branch of government that will see it yet again grow by several thousand, and there is talk in the Pentagon of needing to increase the size of our military, which again increases the size of our government.
Big business regulating itself...that has been proven time and again a non-workable system of oversight, and if you would like, I will be happy to provide you with a wealth of examples proving this point. Your post started out with such promise when you suggested we all read up on each canidate, but as your post continued you spiraled down into a diatribe of anger and prejudice and ended with a false and callous accusation that Kerry is only running for office to appease and please his wife.
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