What will you do if Bush wins?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
841
Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

Pages

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-31-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:43pm
Personally, everyone should read about each of the Presidents and decide on their own. I have opinions on a couple issues that are important to me, and they swayed me to vote Bush. First off, Kerry wants to do away with executions but support abortion? Save adults and kill children? There is no future for death row sentences, but there is a huge future in babies. What sense does that make? Plus, Democrats want a LARGE government to control the country, which basically means higher taxes. Republicans would like businesses to make profits by letting them regulate their own business. I am a soldier in the US military, and Bush did the RIGHT thing for 9/11 AND Iraq. What would Gore have done? I doubt he would have sent troops to Afghanistan to fight terrorism. The war would be here in the US if Bush would not have done what he did. The next four years will be glorious with Bush as our leader instead of a so-called businessman/Christian who will do nothing to stop the babies from being killed. He just wanted to be famous for his spouse, who loves attention.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-17-2003
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:44pm
I'm not certain who I will be voting for but it certainly will not be the man who endorses a music group whose big hit was "Let's Get Retarded" by having them perform the remake of the song ("Let's Get it Started") as the finale act for his convention.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-18-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:49pm

Hello spitfirejane!


Welcome to the board, and thank you for serving your country!

Miffy - Co-CL For The Politics Today Board

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-18-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:50pm

Hi 5goslings!


Welcome to the board!

Miffy - Co-CL For The Politics Today Board

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:52pm
Welcome spitfirejane and irisheyes. I just wanted to thank you and your son for your service to our country! Thank You!
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:11pm
Dear Irish Eyes:

It is obvious from your post that you feel very passionate about your views, as many of us here on this board to...unfortunately, there are numerous flaws in your logic, and even more false facts.

First, it would not matter who was in the Oval Office on that fateful day in September almost three years ago today...our nation would have joined and come together as one as we always have in times of need and crisis. That is just a part of who we are as a nation and as a people...in short, it is a part of our backbone and our heritage.

You are fortunate to have your husband still working in a manufacturing job and making good money, since it is a know FACT that millions of our jobs in manufacturing have been lost under the Bush administration and Bush's policies. You can try to debate it, but hard to argue with Bush himself stating in a nationally televised address that out sourcing of our industrial/manufacturing base was/is good for our economy. Further, you can claim you have recieved great benefits from Bush's tax cuts, but again the numbers show that for most Middle Class Americans the tax cuts were a bandaid applied to a bleeding artery, and have not help most of us. Surely you cannot deny the very real facts that we have lost 1.2 million jobs under Bush, have seen over 5 million Middle Class Americans lose their health coverage, and another five million move from being in the middle class to sinking into poverty...just last month alone, 800,000 CHILDREN fell into the ranks of those living in poverty in our fine nation.

As for your statements about the military...happy for you that your son is home. I have various problems with this war and it's aftermath, but one looms far bigger than all the rest of them at this point in time. Your son is home, he was not there when a dramatic shift took place for our troops still in theatre. George Bush negotiated a transfer of power that took place in June that makes the Iraqi Interim Government the DEFACTO Commander and Chief of our American fighting forces currently on the ground in Iraq, and I have a serious problem with this, and even more serious doubts about a president that would allow this to occur. If we were in charge of our own troops, do you really think we would have allowed a rabid out of control cleric and his thugs to be granted full and complete Amnesty after having killed HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of our nation's fine young men and women in the armed forces?

You have your version of the 2,000 election, but the reality is, that facts support the fact that Bush DID NOT win the general election, the majority of Americans DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM...that is irrefutable no matter how you want to spin the issue.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:14pm
ahhhhh.....a window into the reality behind such rabid Republicanism on your part. Just a suggestion....supporting our troops in theatre does not mean we should be blind to the truth, or ignore the realities right before our eyes. I salute your husband for doing his service to God and country, but cannot in all good conscience vote to put Bush back in the Whitehouse, and it truly saddens me to think that you could as well.
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:16pm
Always amazes me how many people expect real life to work in exactly the same fashion as the model they studied in college did. You are right....Bush's tax cuts are NOT following the model, but he seems intent on blindly and stubbornly continuing down the path.
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:31pm
Another Pro-Life ,Right Leaning, Born Again, Bible Thumping Christian collection of hyperbole can be found in your post, but not backed up by reality.

In piecing together what you are trying to say, you logic fails. Kerry believes in pro choice. Curious, have you ever asked some within the pro-choice movement if we are morally for against abortion? See, even God in his infinite wisdom realized we as human beings had to be allowed free choice, which is HIS GIFT TO US. Yet, you and others want to take this greatest gift God could give us away, and instead have government regulate that choice for us. Problem in that, is then we are legislating morality, taking away God's gift of freedom of choice, and crossing the line between the separation of Church and State. Kerry is wise enough and smart enough to understand this nuance where as Bush is not.

Edwards as the VP and his wife lost their son in a tragic accident, and the two of them went to extreme efforts to bring two new lives into this world. They themselves I would venture to say are not pro-abortion, but they do support the right of women to have the God given right of freedom of choice. Kerry as a devout Catholic may not be comfortable with those of a Gay persuasion, but he and Vice President Dick Cheney both realize that those people should not be denied basic civil rights and liberties. A gay man or woman can die fighting for our country, but they cannot get married...please, we both know that is just not right, and far from being just.

Clinton greatly downsized the government, while Bush has greatly increased the size of our beaurocracy during his time in office, so who is it that really wants BIG GOVERNMENT. Just last week he signed into law by executive order a whole new branch of government that will see it yet again grow by several thousand, and there is talk in the Pentagon of needing to increase the size of our military, which again increases the size of our government.

Big business regulating itself...that has been proven time and again a non-workable system of oversight, and if you would like, I will be happy to provide you with a wealth of examples proving this point. Your post started out with such promise when you suggested we all read up on each canidate, but as your post continued you spiraled down into a diatribe of anger and prejudice and ended with a false and callous accusation that Kerry is only running for office to appease and please his wife.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-31-2004
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:31pm
There is no spin on anything...except for maybe the one about all the jobs lost....the economy is better than has been in 20 years and there is also more jobs...yes it does matter who was in office on 9-11...Gore would not have taken a firm stand...a firm stand that is still needed and please get over the lies about the election...it was won by George Bush!!!! My son was there in June when the transfer of power took place...don't presume to know what you are talking about there....he was extended...and did not get to Germany til late July. Absolute lies about the commander of our troops on ground there being the Iraqi government...I know first hand this is not so...just as I do gore won the election....Get over it...already...talk about sore losers...oh and by the way my mother now only has to pay 86 cents for cholesterol medicine... 4.89 for blood pressure pills and 6.50 for her breathing medication...thanks to guess who??? President Bush.. We are thrilled beyond words...she can now afford all her medications and it was so very easy and not difficult to do at all...she by the way lives in Tennessee and just another of all the great reasons I will fully support our President and not listen to "spins" from people who obviously think they are in the know...just like you knew my son was already home from Iraq in June!!!! think again....

Pages