What will you do if Bush wins?

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Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
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Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:02pm
Everyone is not as smart or lucky as you or I. And rape, for instance does not discriminate.

Donna

Donna
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Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:05pm

I finally managed to view the clip you were referring to, and I think the results of the poll are

Renee ~~~

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Registered: 07-12-2001
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:09pm
One does not have to be either smart or lucky to be RESPONSIBLE. Not ready to have a family? Then don't have sex. Gee, what a concept! I was a virgin until I was 22 and in a committed relationship. Yeah, I know, that makes me a prude and old-fashioned and out of touch with reality. But at least I never had to make such a life-shattering decision as whether to have an abortion.

As for cases of rape, isn't that why the morning-after pill is available? Though I know a lot of women use that, too, as a crutch so they can go out and have sex with whomever whenever and not have to deal with the consequences.

Bev

girl in chair
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Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:09pm
So if your son were say 16 and got a girl pregnant and they were both in high school you encourage them to get married. Uh huh. And this would be good for all concerned? No college, low paying jobs (or am I assuming here that their parents would then support them in whatever endeavors they still wanted to pursue, not having to actually take the responsibilty for this poor judgement themselves?). Or you would encourage the girl to give up a year of her life to carry a baby she becomes attached to and then would of course give up for adoption without a second thought. Oh, and if that doesn't go as theorized (most human conditions don't) and she decides to keep the child but not marry your son then your son would be paying child support and trying to get visitation and try to maintain some friendship with this girl who he is no longer involved with except as the father of her child. Things just are not black and white and you can never predict outcomes, but they are NEVER as
Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:15pm
Again, you talk of how the world should be and not how it is. You are responsible and so am I. Many people are. But many many are not, they are young, naive, etc. Options need to be available for all so when human mistakes are made, as they will be, they are not irreverible mistakes.

Donna

Donna
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Registered: 07-12-2001
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:15pm
Very good points. Perhaps the points you make are something the two teenagers should keep in mind before they have sex. Wonder why so few do? Because they no longer have to deal with the consequences, maybe?

And no, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a teenager to "give up a year of her life" to have a baby and then give it up for adoption. I went to high school with several girls who did just that. You make your bed, you should expect to lie in it. If she becomes attached to it, then maybe she should figure out a way to keep it. It may be her problem, but it's one she created herself, after all.

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 11-13-2003
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:16pm
<< A baby unborn is not a baby. Ask a doctor. An unborn fetus cannot live outside its mother until the later stages of pregnancy and some not even then. A baby has no past experiences, it does not have personhood yet. A woman does.>>

Donna, your boy Edwards CHANNELED babies' thoughts from the womb for a LIVING!!

http://www.nationalreview.com/kob/kob200402050836.asp

Absolute, total hypocrisy.


Edited 9/2/2004 12:35 pm ET ET by janeigh

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Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:41pm
Having an abortion is also a responsible alternative. More single mothers on welfare (if their parents don't support them) we don't need. I don't want to pay for them, do you?

Donna

Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:42pm
And that has to do with what??????????

Donna

Donna
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Registered: 07-12-2001
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 12:45pm
"More single mothers on welfare (if their parents don't support them) we don't need. I don't want to pay for them, do you?"

Nope. Which is why we also need to overhaul welfare. Maybe if people were forced to pay for more things themselves, they would think twice before making "human mistakes."

And sorry, but I just do not see abortion as a "responsible alternative." It's a cop-out, pure and simple.

Bev

girl in chair

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