What will you do if Bush wins?

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Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
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Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 9:04pm

Nope. Which is why we also need to overhaul welfare. Maybe if people were forced to pay for more things themselves, they would think twice before making "human mistakes."


Back to the authoritarian view of what "should" be. People make poor choices, stupid mistakes, and always will. Punishing them for it afterwards only makes things worse for them and whoever is dependent on them. We have to have alternatives that work on all levels. People don't sit down and make a choice to have a baby at 15 or to be raped. Many young girls think they are in love and will marry the "father" and "have someone to love them" (the baby).

Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 9:08pm
I never said any of the things you attribute to me. Nor do I care what Edwards did in his past. I live in the now, in case you haven't figure out by my posts by now. I am not living with a 30 year old war. I care about the war we are in now and what the people I am voting for now are doing and going to do.
Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 9:25pm
The truth is most women/girls who carry a baby to term will not give it up. Truth is even if she keeps it doesn't mean she can take care of it. Truth is we all will pay for it in dollars and social consequences. Truth is I don't care to have this discussion with you. I am not changing my mind and I know you are not changing yours so what is the point?

Donna

Donna
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 9:58pm
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Yup, and life isn't fair. It is not about punishment, it about how life is.

Life isn't fair and there will never be an even playing field for all. That is just the way life is. Liberal policies that try to change this won't succeed, no matter how hard they try. Some folks will ALWAYS have more opportunities than others. Also, some folks will work harder than others and make good. And they are not beholden to those who don't.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:17pm

Also, some folks will work harder than others and make good. And they are not beholden to those who don't.


You are not beholden and I hope things are always bright and shiney for you and those you love. You are judgemental, though and non compassionate (word?).

Donna
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Registered: 07-12-2001
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:38pm
By your rationalization, then, we can say that "people will always make poor choices" like, say, getting drunk and killing someone in a car accident, but we shouldn't punish them by putting them in jail, we should allow them to "learn from their mistakes." Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 09-02-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:41pm
I agree with you, I want to know if things are so wonderful under bush,why does my 74 year old grandfather have to go back to work? why is the crummy health care reform that bush has praised cost my grandparents more money then it did before? why at the end of my grandparents life do they have to go back and work so very hard for so little money just so they can pay for medication in this country that is so expensive? but could get the same meds in another country for alot less? why is a man that served his counrty in WWII being left behind by our goverment? because the older generation does not mean a darn to this administration! what a shame!!
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:52pm
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Not if we have a good judicial system.

No one has the right to rob or rape or fight with us. The right to arm ourselves and to get justice IS in the constitution. We have the right to defend ourselves. What isn't in it is the obligation to support those who don't want to support themselves.

I don't judge anyone.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:58pm
You sound ridiculous comparing what I said to killing someone.
Donna
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Registered: 08-22-2003
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 11:15pm
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I don't believe that right should have ever been made law .....

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Saying that the right to gay marriage is part of the Constitution is really a stretch. Pretty much reading between the lines.

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Separation of Church and State isn't even in the Constitution.

As far as the move backwards about 60 years, some moves that we have made forward with respect to some issues are not really moves forward.


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