What will you do if Bush wins?

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Registered: 08-20-2004
What will you do if Bush wins?
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Fri, 08-20-2004 - 12:02pm
I would like to know what you all will do if Bush wins? I don't know if I can handle another 4 years. Any ideas of how to reclaim our country and restore democracy and freedom? I'm worried that another 4 years will increase the authoritariansm and absolute power that Bush has come to claim and further trample on our constitution and individual liberties. I'm truly frightened.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 12:36pm

<<"Read your own stuff.">>..... oh please! I don't need to "read my own stuff" to know where I stand. I asked you to point out where/how you get that I am anti pro-choice. Like I said, your conclusion confuses me, and I'd like to clear up any misunderstanding.


<<"I will agree that each and every pregnancy and/or abortion is individual.">>......whew! :)

Djie

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Registered: 04-22-2003
Tue, 09-07-2004 - 1:57pm
First, I didn't say that... Second... Didn't Laura Bush kill someone in car accident by running a stop sign. Did she go to jail?

Third, you cannot compare the two...
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-12-2001
Tue, 09-07-2004 - 2:01pm
"Didn't Laura Bush kill someone in car accident by running a stop sign. Did she go to jail?"

Did I say she shouldn't have? And what does that have to do with anything we're discussing here?

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 04-22-2003
Tue, 09-07-2004 - 2:07pm
Just that kids/people get out of responsibilty on many things and gave you an example. But having a choice about whether or not one can keep a pregnancy is not same as killing someone in car accident.
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Registered: 09-07-2004
Tue, 09-07-2004 - 2:26pm
I really do not know what to do if Bush wins. Unfortunately, there is nothing much we can do except to make sure to press the idea to friends and family to NOT vote for Bush and point out the reasons why. I feel like our country is being run by a dictator. No one has say in anything anymore. There are many things that Bush has done and will do that are not good for our country, but all those things aside, i think that this war is going to be our downfall. Bush has no idea what he is doing or who he is trying to attack. Im sure that there are people like you and i who could do a better job as President. He now wants to drill for hydrogen fuel in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. What is he thinking? The votes so far are pretty close, but we have to do all we can to make this country ANTI Bush!

Laura
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Registered: 04-18-2004
Tue, 09-07-2004 - 2:49pm

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Wed, 09-08-2004 - 5:02pm

Hi

Renee ~~~

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Registered: 09-09-2004
Thu, 09-09-2004 - 2:16pm
You will be protected if Bush wins!!! He will stand up for you and your freedom!!!! You should do some research. It will be a VERY scary USA if Kerry wins. Ask any soldier in Iraq, they are scared to death of Kerry winning!! You should be too!!!
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Registered: 08-20-2004
Thu, 09-09-2004 - 3:21pm


What planet are you living on? Bush has done nothing but take AWAY our personal freedom.

I leave you with something to ponder:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr3171.html

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Registered: 08-20-2004
Thu, 09-09-2004 - 3:23pm
If you really think Bush care about our freedoms just read the following document from Congress:

Congress finds the following:

(1) Benjamin Franklin stated: `Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.'.

(2) The First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution were established to protect the civil rights and liberties of all Americans in perpetuity.

(3) Federal policies adopted since September 11, 2001, including provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act (Public Law 107-56) and related executive orders, regulations, and actions threaten fundamental rights and liberties, including the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution by--

(A) authorizing the indefinite incarceration of noncitizens based on mere suspicion, and the indefinite incarceration of citizens designated by the President as `enemy combatants' without access to counsel or meaningful recourse to the Federal courts;

(B) limiting the traditional authority of Federal courts to curb law enforcement abuse of electronic surveillance in antiterrorism investigations and ordinary criminal investigations;

(C) expanding the authority of Federal agents to conduct so-called `sneak and peek' or `black bag' searches, in which the subject of the search warrant is unaware that his or her property has been searched;

(D) granting law enforcement and intelligence agencies broad access to personal medical, financial, library, and education records with little if any judicial oversight;

(E) chilling constitutionally protected speech through overbroad definitions of `terrorism';

(F) creating divisions between immigrant communities and the police that protect them by encouraging involvement of State and local police in enforcement of Federal immigration law; and the police that protect them;

(G) permitting the FBI to conduct surveillance of religious services, internet chatrooms, political demonstrations, and other public meetings of any kind without having any evidence that a crime has been or may be committed; and

(H) mandating the closure of certain immigration removal hearings, including denying judges the authority to reject stays of release where bond has been ordered and denying noncitizens the right to a bond hearing.

(4) Future legislation, such as legislation drafted entitled the Domestic Security Enhancement Act (DSEA) or PATRIOT II, contains a multitude of new and sweeping law enforcement and intelligence gathering powers many of which are not related to terrorism, and would severely dilute and undermine many basic constitutional rights as well as disturb our unique system of checks and balances by--

(A) diminishing personal privacy by removing important checks on government surveillance authority;

(B) reducing the accountability of government to the public by increasing government secrecy;

(C) expanding the definition of `terrorism' in a manner that threatens the constitutionally protected rights of Americans; and

(D) seriously eroding the right of all persons to due process of law.

(5) The above new and unprecedented powers pose threats to all Americans and particularly to the civil rights and liberties of the residents of our Nation who are Arab, Muslim, or of South Asian descent.

SEC. 3. NINETY-DAY REVIEW PERIOD.

Each provision of law, regulation, or other policy directive listed in sections 4 through 10, and any amendments made by that provision, shall cease to have effect 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act. During this 90-day period, the Congress may, at the request of the President, hold hearings to determine whether a particular section should be removed from the list in section 4.

SEC. 4. PROVISIONS IN THE USA PATRIOT ACT.

The provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act (Public Law 107-56) to which section 3 applies are:

(1) Section 213, relating to `sneak and peak searches'.

(2) Section 214, relating to the use of pen registers for foreign intelligence purposes.

(3) Section 215, relating to the obtaining by the Government of certain business records.

(4) Section 216, relating to the use of pen registers in criminal cases.

(5) Section 218, relating to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

(6) Section 411, relating to new grounds for deportation.

(7) Section 412, relating to mandatory detention of certain aliens.

(8) Section 505, relating to national security letters.

(9) Section 507, relating to educational records.

(10) Section 508, relating to collection and disclosure of individually identifiable information under the National Education Statistics Act of 1994.

(11) Section 802, relating to the definition of domestic terrorism.

SEC. 5. PROVISIONS OF AVIATION SECURITY ACT EXCLUDING PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS FROM BEING BAGGAGE CHECKERS.

Section 3 also applies to section 44935(e)(2)(A)(ii) of title 49, United States Code.

SEC. 6. HOMELAND SECURITY ACT OF 2002 PROVISIONS.

Section 3 also applies to the following provisions of the Homeland Security Act of 2002:

(1) Section 214, relating to an exemption from the Freedom of Information Act.

(2) Section 871, relating to an exemption from the Federal Advisory Committee Act.

SEC. 7. IMMIGRATION REGULATIONS PROVISIONS.

Section 3 also applies to the following provisions of regulations:

(1) The regulation found at 66 Federal Register 48334-35 (September 20, 2001) relating to time held without charges.

(2) The regulation found at 66 Federal Register 54909-12 (October 31, 2001) relating to automatic stays for the Government in immigration hearings.

(3) The so-called `Creppy memo' that mandates closed immigration hearings in certain cases, and 67 Federal Register 54878 (August 26, 2002) relating to restructuring appeals.

(4) Any legal opinion or regulation that increases the powers of the Attorney General to authorize State or local law enforcement officers to exercise Federal immigration enforcement beyond those given in 8 CFR Part 2 or 28 CFR Part 65.

(5) The regulation found at 67 Federal Register 52584 (August 12, 2002), relating to registration and monitoring of certain aliens, and all notices published pursuant to that regulation.

SEC. 8. ATTORNEY-CLIENT MONITORING.

Section 3 also applies to the regulation found at 66 Federal Register 55063, relating to monitoring conversations between attorneys and clients.

SEC. 9. SECRECY ORDERS.

Section 3 also applies to the memorandum of Attorney General Ashcroft dated October 12, 2001 and relating to the disclosure of documents under the Freedom of Information Act.

SEC. 10. THORNBURG GUIDELINES ON RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION SPYING.

Section 3 also applies to any regulations having the effect of changing the effect of the Attorney General's Guidelines on General Crimes, Racketeering Enterprise and Domestic Security/Terrorism Investigations approved by Attorney General Dick Thornburg for the Department of Justice on March 21, 1989.

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