KERRY SPEAKS

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Registered: 08-24-2004
KERRY SPEAKS
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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 8:53am





I am John Kerry.



I was against the first Iraq war. I am against the second Iraq war, but I voted for it. Now I'm against it but I was for it.

I support the UN. I'm against terrorism and against the Iraq war. But I voted for the Iraq war. So, I voted against the first war and supported the second war, wait.....



I'm against gay marriage but for gay unions. I support gays but think the San Francisco mayor is wrong. I support gay marriages. No, wait, gay unions.



I'm Catholic. Wait, I'm Jewish. My dad was Jewish.

But I was raised Catholic. What am I? I don't want to confuse people.



I am for abortions, but wait, I'm Catholic, and Catholics are pro-life. But I might consider putting pro-life judges in office, but I'm not sure. I do know I voted for a pro-life judge, but I stated that it was a mistake.



I went to Vietnam. But I was against Vietnam. I testified against fellow U.S. Troops in Vietnam, threw my medals away and led others to do the same.

But I am a war hero. Against the war. I stated I threw my medals away then I threw my ribbons away. I then revealed that I threw my ribbons away but not my medals, then lately I stated that I threw someone else's medals away and never threw anything of mine away.



I believe Ribbons and medals aren't the same thing. Medals come with ribbons, so now I believe that ribbons and medals are the same thing besides the fact that ribbons are cloth and medals are metal.



I wrote a book that pictured the U.S. Flag upside-down on its cover. But now I fly and campaign in a plane with a large flag right-side up on it. But sometimes, we fly upside-down for fun.



Yasser Arafat is a hero and a statesman. The Israelis shouldn't kill Palestinian terrorists, but they should stop terrorism. Yasser Arafat is a terrorist supporter. I support Mideast peace.



I am for the common man, unlike Bush. I am against the rich. But my family is worth $300 million dollars, five mansions, a yacht, a jet and many SUV's. I am the common man.



I am against sending jobs overseas. My wife is a Heinz heir. Heinz has most of their factories offshore. I am against rewarding companies for exporting jobs as long as it is not Heinz.



I own $1 million in Wal-Mart stock. I believe Wal-Mart is evil for driving small business owners out of town. I am a capitalist and I own part of Wal-Mart but I am a good guy for small corporate America.



I own SUV's when I talk to my followers in Detroit, Michigan, Teresa owns SUV's, I don't, when I talk to tree hugging followers. I have a campaign jet that gets 1/3 mpg, which is great fuel efficiency.



I am against making military service an issue in presidential elections. I defended draft dodger Clinton and stated that all serve in their own capacity whether they draft dodge or not. Did I mention, I served in Vietnam and am a hero? Are you questioning my patriotism? I served in Vietnam. My opponent didn't. I have three purple hearts! I am a hero. I am qualified to run this country since I served for four months.



I am John Kerry.

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Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 12:46pm
That is an issue that I could not even begin to question on either side, as I truly do not think it should be in politics.

Until such time as the country is in a moral atmosphere where everyone agrees with abortion, or is against it, the fact is that it is currently legal, and needs to remain so in order to provide those that choose to have the procedure, with a safe and regulated method of having it done.

I may not be in favor of abortion, but I dont know if it is something that I could actually say is illegal. Just another persons opinion here, however.

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Registered: 02-23-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 1:33pm


I consider myself pro-life, but I do believe the battle must be won in hearts and minds not in the courts or legislature. However, Kerry has opposed any restrictions on abortion whatsoever, including on partial birth abortion, a barbaric late-term procedure that physicians have asserted is never medically necessary. I can't fathom how someone who believes that life begins at conception (as Kerry has stated he does) could support it, and be against even the most reasonable restrictions on abortion. I know there are other places to debate abortion itself, but this is just one more example of Kerry's career defining desire to have things both ways.

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Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 4:00pm
I do not support partial birth abortions, but I would say that if a true medically necessary procedure would need to be done to save the life of the mother, then that is something that should be taken into consideration.

Along the lines of that argument however, when the lawmakers asked to view the medical records (with the private information being witheld) to see if any of the late term abortions were medically necessary, many people sought to stop this as unnecessary, stating the government was looking to infringe on peoples privacy.

I didnt see that at all.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 4:30pm
Hello Again:

Unfortunately, this is what worries me, and what the Bush camp is hoping for. If enough people vote green, if enough people pull the lever for Nader, the Repukes will skim away just enough votes from Kerry to sneak back into office for four more years. I really hope these people who are thinking of voting Green will seriously reconsider such a vote, for as you pointed out, it amounts to a vote for Bush.

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Registered: 08-31-2003
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 5:46pm
"I may not be in favor of abortion, but I dont know if it is something that I could actually say is illegal. Just another persons opinion here, however."

Debateguy,

As someone that once supported abortion and see things differently now, how do you reconcile that a woman can end her baby's life simply b/c it hasn't been born yet, but if someone causes an accident, or deliberately harms the mother that person can be charged with the death of that same baby?

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Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 5:48pm
Sure you will disagree with me, but shall make the point anyway. The Pro-life movement is looking for leverage, they want to get a wedge into the proverbial log so that they can split and pick apart a womans right to choose. If those who support a woman's choice to choose give and inch, the pro-life movement will try to take a mile.
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Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 5:52pm
I reconcile it very easily...if a woman uses her choice to have an abortion, that is her choice made of her own free will, and between her and God.

If someone murders a woman and her unborn child, the womans choice was taken away. The Laci Peterson case being the most notable in this area.

What concerns me as I stated in another post, is your post is a perfect example of what I am talking about when I say the Pro-Choice movement cannot afford to give an inch, because when we do, the Pro-Life group trys to use it to take a mile. They are looking for a wedge, and get frustrated when we know better than to give it to them.

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Registered: 01-05-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 8:20pm
That was great!! Kerry is such a JOKE!
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Registered: 02-23-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Tue, 08-31-2004 - 8:58pm
< Sure you will disagree with me, but shall make the point anyway. The Pro-life movement is looking for leverage, they want to get a wedge into the proverbial log so that they can split and pick apart a womans right to choose. If those who support a woman's choice to choose give and inch, the pro-life movement will try to take a mile.>

I don't disagree with you at all-the pro-life movement wants every inch it can get, and their ultimate goal is to make most abortions illegal-they believe (as I do) that the lives of innocent children are at stake. I don't think that's any big secret. The same slippery slope argument could also be applied to the pro-choice movement, which opposes anesthesia for 20 week fetuses with a proven ability to feel pain, because they don't want to give a fetus any rights. They would rather allow things to be done to fetuses that they wouldn't allow to be done to dogs, than even slightly imply that a fetus is human and deserving of any consideration. In any case, there are plenty of boards devoted to the topic of abortion, but I have long since abandoned them because the futility of it is depressing. Like I said, the battle will only be won in hearts and minds, probably by science and not by politicians, judges or religion.

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Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: dipsydoodler
Wed, 09-01-2004 - 10:52am
I choose not to project my morality onto others, that is how I reconcile it.

As I stated, I may not agree with abortion, but I also do not feel that the government has any responsibility in trying to make it illegal again. They will never stop it, as people will continue to go back to the old methods of seeing doctors in the middle of the night who will still perform the procedures quietly.

Until the day comes when every man and woman can say that they feel abortion should be made illegal, I say the government should keep out of it as much as possible.