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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 9:58am
From a 25 yr old Englishwoman

I read your post (or should I say article!) on Bush's half-truths and non-truths, it was very interesting. A couple of thoughts:

How can you have a war on terror? It's not a country. It's not a race, nor a gender. It's a feeling!!! 9/11 was horribly wrong, but it was far from unprecedented. Here in the UK, we've been dealing with terrorism for a very long time, specifically from the IRA and other groups like it. But we didn't go and bomb the sh*t out of Australia because they had tenuous links to Ireland! This is not to say that we should be lenient on terrorists. But the vast majority of Iraqis who are now dead were not terrorists. If the minds behind 9/11 could be found, I'd gleefully pull the trigger myself, but why are we killing people with no connection whatsoever to that atrocity?

The idea of Bush and Blair sitting together praying gives me shivers. Separation of Church and State, people! Isn't that what your Constitution says?

Both of them have been proved to be liars, and to have taken our countries and our young men and women into war on completely fabricated grounds. I confess, I'm glad the Taliban are no longer in power in Afghanistan, but it's the height of idiocy to believe that we went into Iraq for any other primary reason than OIL!

baby siggy

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:04am
I'd love to see all that "oil". Wouldn't there be some evidence of that being the case?

Ya'll over there can thank us later for the sacrifices we are making to eliminate terror. Hey, they bullied Spain into submission, they are working on France, who's next to roll over to terrorism in Europe?

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:14am

Your post was excellent, very well thought out and such a breath of fresh air to have a new voice that is not clouded by American political propaganda.


The idea of Bush and Blair sitting together praying gives me shivers. Separation of Church and State, people! Isn't that what your Constitution says?


Yes that is exactly how it is supposed to be here and it also makes me shudder as well.

Donna

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:16am
By the way, this president Bush is an isolationist and thinks he is so powerful he can take on anyone by himself and that no one else matters. He has and is doing so and we are all paying for it here in this country, daily, with our dollars and our lives.

Donna

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:17am
thank you later for the sacrifices you're making? call me mad, but weren't our lads right there with yours in each action?

which is beside the point as Iraq has no proven links to Al Qaeda anyway. As I said, anything that's actually against TERRORISM is fine. but if a country is allowed to fly in the face of the UN and the rest of the world, surely that can only lead to trouble.

as for the oil, look in any atlas and find the page on Natural Resources. I'm sure you'll see what I mean.

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:19am
thank you Donna, you should read post #2 and let me know what you think of those comments

cheers

baby siggy
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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:25am
Isn't Tony Blair facing impeachment over involving England in the Iraq conflict?


 


Mich

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:27am
Morning Lianne:

I've visited England...a delightful people. Stationed my self in Forrest Hill and traveled extensively thoughout the country for three months a few years back. You are a very bright young woman with well thought out and composed ideas on this situation.

In America, we were UNITED in going after the Taliban, and tracking down the terrorists in Afghanistan, and the world was united with us. However, when Bush began whispering that he was going to take on Saddam that unification rapidly began to dissappear. The reports that are coming out (Such as the 911 Commission Report) state that there is no CREDITABLE connection between Osama Bin Ladin and Iraq as we all now know had/has no weapons of Mass Destruction. Fact of the matter is, that Congress, the Senate and the people of the United States of America would NEVER have approved of or condoned a war against Iraq if Bush and his swagger had gone on National TV and said something to the effect of " You know, I just don't link the man (patented wink)and I think we ought to go over there and kick us some Iraqi Ass (bigger conspiratorial wink). So, what do you think, are you with me on this?"

The death count in American Soldiers alone is quickly approaching 1,000 and sure that you over there have your own numbers. Untold 1,000's of innocent Iraqi's have lost their lives as well, and the press on an almost daily basis it seems has a story about yet another individual or two or three being kidnapped. This war was a bad idea, and it needs to be ended, just as Vietnam needed to be ended so many years ago.

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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:29am
Oil....in case you have not noticed, the insurgents and Iraqi militants are constanting attacking to stem the flow of oil out of Iraq as they believe in doing otherwise allows the Bush administration to profit unfairly from said oil. True or otherwise on the oil, it is true, and it is the perception of the people of Iraq that our president is trying to steal and control their natural resources.
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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:31am
Lianne, a word to the wise...Ada seems to be a total blinded follower of Bush, choosing to ignore any and all truths put before her rather than abandon her love affair with a President bent on destroying our way of life.
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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 10:33am
Adorable children...you are blessed. Let's hope that Bush does nothing more to ruin their future.

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