Dems Open Bar-No Repukes welcome

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Dems Open Bar-No Repukes welcome
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Tue, 08-31-2004 - 2:41pm
Was with a bit of amusement that I saw the Republicans in here has a thread that we are supposed to stay out of (see Republican Treehouse)....guess they feel a need to have secret meetings, and might even have a secret handshake to get through the door, so thought those of us on the side of reason and intellect should have our own little hide-away as it were. So, kick your shoes off, pour yourself a drink and lets discuss the issues.

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 1:51am
Oh and of course you can't forget them attacking Kerry as apart of their talks and gatherings. XOXO.
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Registered: 08-17-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 1:53am
Alexandra(filmmaker) is 30 and Vanessa (3rd year Harvard med student) is 27. So, yes, a 5-8 year difference. I expected the 22 year old twins, especially with a college education (one an Ivy Leaguer), would have been a bit more mature. There's a time to be party girls then there's a time to be mature. I've read posts that think the girls are being judged harshly since they're ONLY 22. That's totally underestimating the capabilities and maturity of a 22 year old! I actually was surprised to find out they were 22 because I thought they acted like they were 13. Well, enough of that.

In their defense the script was horrible. It was obvious that they were trying to parallel the Kerry women but they failed miserably. There's really no comparison. They didn't add anything to the RNC except for some awkwardness and embarrassment. I feel a tiny bit sorry for them since they may have been forced into their appearance. It probably would have been better to just let them wave and smile from the audience.

kerry/edwards!!

meels

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 1:59am
They're 22? I thought they were at least 18 or so. I'm 22 and don't act that way! I'm not a partier although I do enjoy spending time with my friends and going out and stuff. Watching them they do act like they're more 18 then 22. I'm surprised I guess to learn they're 22. XOXO.
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 2:03am
Rant away....I understand what it can be like to be in need of some adult conversation at times.....spend to much time here trying to educate republicans.

Next time that happens to you, stop and educate them....does not take to much effort to give them the truth.

800,000 Kids just last month forced into poverty by Bush's policies for instance is usually a real good fact to share with a mother.

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Registered: 08-17-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 2:13am
here's a link to an article about the kerry sisters with mention of the bush twins' age:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-07-14-kerry-daughters_x.htm

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 2:22am
Thanks for posting that about the girls. It was interesting to read and I enjoyed finding out more about them. I thought it was cool how one of them was taking a year off and instead of just to take off she was going to still be getting an education to farther her career plans. Is there anything out there that tell more about the Bush girls? XOXO.
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Registered: 08-17-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 2:32am
IT IS NOT A SAFER WORLD!! Bush is angering the world and making us MORE vulnerable to attacks!

i've shared this on other boards and wanted to share these comments from IRAQ and NEPAL.

meels

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IRAQ:

about the iraqi soccer team's displeasure that bush is using them in campaign ads

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/writers/08/19/iraq/index.html

But they also find it offensive that Bush is using Iraq for his own gain when they do not support his administration's actions. "My problems are not with the American people," says Iraqi soccer coach Adnan Hamad. "They are with what America has done in Iraq: destroy everything. The American army has killed so many people in Iraq. What is freedom when I go to the stadium and there are shootings on the road?"

At a speech in Beaverton, Ore., last Friday, Bush attached himself to the Iraqi soccer team after its opening-game upset of Portugal. "The image of the Iraqi soccer team playing in this Olympics, it's fantastic, isn't it?" Bush said. "It wouldn't have been free if the United States had not acted."

"I want the violence and the war to go away from the city," says Sadir, 21. "We don't wish for the presence of Americans in our country. We want them to go away."

the iraqi olympic soccer team is livid that bush is using them in a campaign re-election ad and taking credit for their ability to play in the olympics. Answers from two of the iraqi players to this QUESTION: "President Bush has included the Iraqi Olympic team in his latest campaign advertisements. How do you feel about that?"

A. From Sadir: "Iraq as a team does not want Mr. Bush to use us for the presidential campaign. He can find another way to advertise himself."

A. And from Manajid: "How will meet his god having slaughtered so many men and women? He has committed so many crimes."


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NEPAL:

my american friend living/working in nepal sent this to me last night:


Well, I write this letter this morning with a city in massive turmoil. This is not a safer world according to what I see on the streets of Kathmandu today. As a result of the Nepali hostages being killled in Iraq, this country is in anger and frustration for what has happened. We are not in immediate danger, but the streets are all blocked off with fires burning and all of the Muslim temples are surrounded by angry protesters. A number of mosques have been destroyed or partially destroyed by angry mobs. Innocent Muslim people have been caught in a backlash of senseless violence toward them and their temples as a result of what is happening in Iraq.

If Mr. Bush thinks that the world is safer and somehow better, I invite him to witness the chaos and the innocent people being caught up in the violence on the streets of Kathmandu. The spill over from Iraq is just one more thing "they did not plan for". I am extremly angry to see what I am seeing today in this country. The spill over of anger and frustration in a very poor country and not totally understanding the reasons why. We are hearing that some Muslim homes have been burned down and the reports are not encouraging. We currently are working on what we will do with the students who got to school today and how to get them home safely. One of our buses is at an American recreation compound and cannot get to school. They are waiting it out.

I find it ironic to be watching the Republican convention (and to be fair the Democratic convention) with all the thoughts that the Iraq war was justified and has made the world somehow safer. When I see what I am seeing today firsthand it is not a safer world as a result of going into Iraq. It is not that simple. There are ramifications that this administration or anyone who supported the war in Iraq doesn't seem to understand. Yes, I am angry!

For those of us living overseas, we are not being admired for being American.

In addition to this new twist of events, the Maoist have now issued warnings against agencies or companies that are connected with American funding or support. This is a result of the American policy to label them "terrorists" and freezing all financial assets. There is a price to be paid as a result of this action by the U.S. State Department. The in your face, tough guy approach by the U.S. government does not enhance good will in the world. Mr. Bush may think it implies that he is a no nonsense strong and decisive leader, but there is a lacking of wisdom in his approach.

Ghandi once said that "an eye for an eye approach, blinds the whole world".

There is an estimated 17,000 Nepalis in Jordan or Iraq who were led to believe they were going to get employment with good pay in the "reconstruction" of Iraq. American tax payer money being spent by the billions to prop up a democray. It is not only the poor of Nepal who jump at the chance for a job that offers them a chance to earn money and send home to their families, but other poor people as well. Despite the dangerous conditions these people are willing to risk their lives for the "opportunity" to send home money to their familes. It is a much bigger issue than just Iraq as the abuse of these workers is a world wide issue. But the killing of these workers brings it to the front of the news. Thousands of these workers are being taken in by companies that promise them jobs; they pay a fortune to the company to get them there with indentured type conditions; they have no understanding of what they are getting into and often end up with jobs that are dangerous or low paying or abusive employers. In some cases they are smuggled into the country without the proper work permits or visas.

I just learned that the head of one of these companies in Kathmandu had his house and all the belongings destroyed by a mob of angry people. They are looking for him.

There is no question that the poor are being exploited to "get the job done".

When George W. said some time ago "bring it on" as a response to the Iraq resistance, I do not know if he knew what that all meant. No, he did NOT know.

I will get back to you later on how things progess over the next days.

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Registered: 08-17-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 2:50am
i have no idea if this is valid but i found this: http://www.thefirsttwins.com/

do a little bit of googling and you'll find a lot of stuff.

keep researching and vote for kerry/edwards!

meels

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Registered: 04-18-2004
Thu, 09-02-2004 - 3:17am

Hello meels2004!


Welcome to the board!

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Thu, 09-02-2004 - 3:20am

Hi cptmemo!


Welcome to the board!

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