ALL BUSH SUPPORTERS READ THIS

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ALL BUSH SUPPORTERS READ THIS
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Thu, 09-02-2004 - 10:03am
I blagged this from a War On Terror Ivillage board:

'In his memoirs, "A World Transformed," written five years ago, George Bush Sr. wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War.

"Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have incurred incalculable human

and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible.... We

would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq....

There was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of

our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a

pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in

and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations'

mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response

to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion

route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power

in a bitterly hostile land."

If only his son could read.'

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 4:38pm
I didn't say they supported an anti-war position. I
Donna
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Sat, 09-04-2004 - 5:18pm
No, I'd be very interested in hearing your sources. I'm always interested in hearing from different points of view.

Despite what you seem to think, I have no vested interest in "wanting to believe" there is truly a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Trust me, I am not so in love with George W. Bush (or ANY Republican) that I want to see him re-elected at any cost. If there were any other candidate whom I felt would be effective in fighting the war on terrorism without trying to be "sensitive" about it (Joe Lieberman and John McCain come to mind), I'd vote for them in a heartbeat.

Bev

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Mon, 09-06-2004 - 2:52am
<<"We are the intelligent ones here who know there was no terrorist link in Iraq to the people who attacked our country. This is getting ridiculous. Keep those blinders on, they will protect you from the truth for a while.">>.....Yes this is getting ridiculous! The "intelligent ones" keep ignoring the fact that it was never said there was a direct link between SH and 9/11. What wás said, is that there are links between SH and international terrorism (he was the self-proclaimed and proud sponsor to e.g. families of suicide bombers in Israël).

Djie

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 3:33am

This from the book Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward regarding Kerry's (and Kennedy's) stance on the vote to give Bush authority to go to war:


Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 3:46am

What wás said, is that there are links between SH and international terrorism (he was the self-proclaimed and proud sponsor to e.g. families of suicide bombers in Israël).


I see, so this is why we went to war in Iraq? I seem to recall the president and Powell and the rest telling us that SH had weapons of mass destruction and links to terrorist groups that attacked us. All proven untrue BEFORE they made those very speeches telling us these lies, and certainly known to be untrue before the first death there.

Donna
Donna
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Mon, 09-06-2004 - 4:47am
<<"I see, so this is why we went to war in Iraq? I seem to recall the president and Powell and the rest telling us that SH had weapons of mass destruction and links to terrorist groups that attacked us. All proven untrue BEFORE they made those very speeches telling us these lies, and certainly known to be untrue before the first death there.">>.....

Djie

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Registered: 03-24-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 5:10am
I am posting just becuase this one debatable thing is always in a circle!! At one time everyone was convinced that the earth was the center of the universe, that the earth was flat, and that WWI would end all wars. Obviously all these were proven wrong. Just becuase everyone agrees on something doesn't make it true. So can we just all just say, the world has learned a valuable lesson, and we all should hope that it doesn't repeat itself. :-)
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 5:16am
Deal Sondra, just as long as history is not rewritten for convenience. ;~)

Djie

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 5:39am

There were diverse reasons to go into Iraq, I and others have mentioned them ad nausem, yet you keep perpetuating the lie about being deliberately <<"lied to">>.


Donna
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Registered: 08-31-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 11:58am
Hi all, lots been said on this thread since Friday :o)

"Is there any act of atrocity that you could imagine that is so horrible and catastropic and beyond the pale that would cause you to back that president doing what needed to be done to stop Al Queda with military force?"

But they haven't stopped Al Qaeda. Remember Bali? How can you stop a movement that has no home, no single base, no acknowledged leader?

I'm not saying we should all give up and let terrorism take us over, but making war on other countries is NOT the answer, because terrorism doesn't live in any one place. It takes more than guns to fight an idea.

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