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Bush Opens a Double-Digit Lead!
| Fri, 09-03-2004 - 3:46pm |
New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6.
http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,692562,00.html
Edited 9/3/2004 4:13 pm ET ET by iminnie833

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The official Navy records are at: http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html
The Command History is
You choose to believe who you choose to believe. I cannot with any conscience question a man who went to Viet Nam and saves people's lives when I was not there and neither were you. The men who are dissing him have an agenda: money. Please read the official records I have posted here:
Again: http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/command_history.html
And: http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html
These are the official reports. Are you suggesting he shot himself, wounded himself and lied about saving Rasmussen's life after purposely putting the man in danger. Shame on you!!!!!! The depths to which you guys will sink is dispicable. The Republicans are so power hungry they will stop at nothing to defend their cowboy leader. They will stoop to whatever depths they are encouraged to descend.
Your supporting posts are lifted from John Kerry's site.
On December 11, 1968, John Kerry wrote in his journal:
"They pulled away from the pier at Cat Lo with spirits high, feeling satisfied with the way things were going for them. They had no lust for battle, but they also were were not afraid. A cocky feeling of invincibility accompanied us up the Long Tau shipping channel because we hadn't been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky."
Let's look at what you've posted from John Kerry's site:
December 2, 1968: Kerry experiences first intense combat; receives first combat related injury.
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How can you possibly keep defending Kerry against his own statements?!?!
2) Kerry did lie about being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, why did he change his story then, and offer no exact information about when he was there. His own foregunner said that they were never in Cambodia during the time he was aboard Kerry's boat.
3) Kerry claimed that after pulling Rassman from the water, he kept his PCF in the area to provide cover fire for the remaining vessels. He has now retracted that statement and NOW says that after pulling Rassman from the water, he got his boat out of the vicinity.
4) Kerry said that anyone who did not vote for the funding for the troops would be irresponsible. Kerry has called himself irresponsible then.
As I have said on other threads. Bush might not win this election so much as Kerry will cost himself the election with his own mouth.
I know why you are writing this. You seem to be threatened by having the truth come out about Kerry, just as his campaign is.
The only thing Kerry can turn to is the fact that he did serve in Vietnam. His stories about his service change when confronted with opposing facts and when anyone brings up his actions after Vietnam, he now tries to claim that those views were not his views, but the views of others that he was representing...(Yeah...right). When you question his voting record, his campaign said that it is a personal attack.
A personal attack is stating that your opponent is stupid, and lied about the facts leading to the war in Iraq, and that your opponent was AWOL from his National Guard service. (neither of them true by the way, but Terry McAulliffe, the head of the DNC keeps blaring away with these three things anyway). I dont see Kerry distancing himself from these remarks....quite the contrary, I now see him attempting to embrace them.
When all else fails the leftists go back to the tried and true -- regurgitating other left wing posts and pretending everyone knows they're "true".
My supporting sources, including Kerry's own published words (not on the Internet), prove him to be a liar, deserter and traitor.
Good luck on Nov. 2. Kerry and his believers sure need it.
On October 14, 1979, John Kerry described a remarkable event from his days as a Swift boat officer for the Boston Herald:
"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
-- President Nixon, of course, did not assume office until January of 1969.
On March 27, 1986, during a speech opposing President Reagan's policy in Central America, Senator John Kerry had this to say:
"Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared -— seared -— in me, that says to me, before we send another generation into harm's way we have a responsibility in the U.S. Senate to go the last step, to make the best effort possible in order to avoid that kind of conflict."
And again, in a 1992 article by the Associated Press:
"But for Kerry, who spent six violent months commanding a patrol boat on the Mekong River, there's always been a ring of truth to allegations of abandoned Americans. By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia.
"We were told, `Just go up there and do your patrol. Everybody was over there (in Cambodia). Nobody thought twice about it," Kerry said. One of the missions, which Kerry, at the time, was ordered not to discuss, involved taking CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves.
"I can remember wondering, `If you're going to go, what happens to you,"' Kerry said.
As recently as May of 2000, U.S. News and World Report stated that, "Sen. John Kerry made his first forays into Cambodia during the Vietnam War as a Navy lieutenant on clandestine missions to deliver weapons to anticommunist forces."
Interestingly, Kerry's Cambodian sojourn, though "seared" into his memory by 1986, somehow failed to rate a mention in Kerry's own contemporary journal.
In "Unfit for Command," authors John O'Neill and Dr. Jerome Corsi document the impossibility of Kerry's story:
Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies. Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. In reality, during Christmas 1968, he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia. Kerry was never ordered into Cambodia by anyone and would have been court-martialed had he gone there.
During Christmas 1968, Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border. Areas closer than fifty-five miles to the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBRs, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats. Preventing border crossings was considered so important at the time that an LCU (a large, mechanized landing craft) and several PBRs were stationed to ensure that no one could cross the border.
A large sign at the border prohibited entry. Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of the PBRs, confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and that they would have been stopped had they appeared.
All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command—Joe Streuhli (Commander of CosDiv 13), George Elliott (Commander of CosDiv 11), Adrian Lonsdale (Captain, USCG and Commander, Coastal Surveillance Center at An Thoi), Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (Commander, Coastal Surveillance Force Vietnam, CTF 115), and Rear Admiral Art Price (Commander of River Patrol Force, CTF 116)—deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s PCF 44 boat—Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner—deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia. The remaining two crewmen declined to be interviewed for this book. Gardner, in particular, will never forget those days in late December when he was wounded on PCF 44, not in Cambodia, but many miles away in Vietnam.
As part of the supporting documentation given to station managers for our television ad, "Any Questions?" we provided this regarding John Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia":
The story is a total preposterous fabrication by Kerry. Exhibit 8 is an affidavit by the Commander of the Swift boats in Vietnam, Admiral Roy Hoffmann, stating that Kerry's claim to be in Cambodia for Christmas Eve and Christmas of 1968 is a total lie. If necessary, similar affidavits are available from the entire chain of command. In reality, Kerry was at Sa Dec -- easily locatable on any map more than fifty miles from Cambodia. Kerry himself inadvertently admits that he was in Sa Dec for Christmas Eve and Christmas and not in Cambodia, as he had stated for so many years on the Senate Floor, in the newspapers, and elsewhere. Exhibit 27, Tour, pp. 213-219. Sa Dec is hardly "close" to the Cambodian border. In reality, far from being ordered secretly to Cambodia, Kerry spent a pleasant night at Sa Dec with "visions of sugar plums" dancing in his head. Exhibit 27, p. 219. At Sa Dec where the Swift boat patrol area ended, there were many miles of other boats (PBR's) leading to the Cambodian border. There were also gunboats on the border to prevent any crossing. If Kerry tried to get through, he would have been arrested. Obviously, Kerry has hardly been honest about his service in Vietnam.
John Kerry was never shot at by Khmer Rouge and Cambodians. He never took CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves. In fact, John Kerry's boat never came within 50 miles of Cambodia at any time.
http://swift4.he.net/~swift4/staticpages/index.php?page=Christmas
Nixon was not president until Jan. of 1969. The president elect does not act as president until he is sworn in. This is vague in my memory, but I don't believe that it was ever proven that Nixon secretly bombed Cambodia. If that *were* true, had anyone been in a Swiftboat they would have been bombed too, wouldn't they? There is no way Kerry can explain his way out of this. He was only over there (outside his service on the USS GRIDLEY where everyone knew where he was) for 4 months and 12 days. There is only one Christmas Eve in that amount of time. Everyone who was there *including* his "band of brothers" deny *ever* being in Cambodia.
The John O'Neil thing is just smoke and mirrors. First, Kerry said he was 5 miles inside of Cambodia being shot at by our allies. A total fabrication. Also, John O'Neill was not there at the same time that Kerry was. Everyone that *was* there have said that they never got within 50 miles of Cambodia.
As I stated before, his own foregunner said that while he served with Kerry, they were never in Cambodia.
If Kerry was in Cambodia, surely he can present at least one person to confirm this.
I guess you also missed how the Navy itself is investigating Kerry's Silver Star with a 'V' as this is the only one in existance.
Perhaps you forgot that when CEO's, CFO's, COO's, step down it is quite common for their buyout package to run for a few years, so the company does not have to come up with the package in one lump sum.
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