Kerry Caught In Lie About V.P. Cheney

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Kerry Caught In Lie About V.P. Cheney
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Fri, 09-03-2004 - 9:53pm
I have been watching the talk shows today and I noticed that John Forbes Kerry, and all of the Democrat spokespersons have said that V.P. Cheney said in his speech to the RNC that Kerry was "unfit for command", then they go off into a tirade "This from a man.. yada yada who never went to Vietnam"... Have you guys heard this?

Well I watched V. P. Cheney's speech and I did not recall him saying that John Forbes Kerry was "unfit for command". So I went to a transcript of the speech and found that he didn't say anything of the sort! They just made it up so they could lead into the slam they had planned for Cheney, lol.

Here is everything that Cheney said about Kerry:

"And so it is time to set the alternatives squarely before the American people.

The President's opponent is an experienced senator. He speaks often of his service in Vietnam, and we honor him for it. But there is also a record of more than three decades since. And on the question of America's role in the world, the differences between Senator Kerry and President Bush are the sharpest, and the stakes for the country are the highest. History has shown that a strong and purposeful America is vital to preserving freedom and keeping us safe — yet time and again Senator Kerry has made the wrong call on national security. Senator Kerry began his political career by saying he would like to see our troops deployed "only at the directive of the United Nations." During the 1980s, Senator Kerry opposed Ronald Reagan's major defense initiatives that brought victory in the Cold War. In 1991, when Saddam Hussein occupied Kuwait and stood poised to dominate the Persian Gulf, Senator Kerry voted against Operation Desert Storm.

Even in this post-9/11 period, Senator Kerry doesn't appear to understand how the world has changed. He talks about leading a "more sensitive war on terror," as though Al Qaeda will be impressed with our softer side. He declared at the Democratic Convention that he will forcefully defend America — after we have been attacked. My fellow Americans, we have already been attacked, and faced with an enemy who seeks the deadliest of weapons to use against us, we cannot wait for the next attack. We must do everything we can to prevent it — and that includes the use of military force.

Senator Kerry denounces American action when other countries don't approve — as if the whole object of our foreign policy were to please a few persistent critics. In fact, in the global war on terror, as in Afghanistan and Iraq, President Bush has brought many allies to our side. But as the President has made very clear, there is a difference between leading a coalition of many, and submitting to the objections of a few. George W. Bush will never seek a permission slip to defend the American people.

Senator Kerry also takes a different view when it comes to supporting our military. Although he voted to authorize force against Saddam Hussein, he then decided he was opposed to the war, and voted against funding for our men and women in the field. He voted against body armor, ammunition, fuel, spare parts, armored vehicles, extra pay for hardship duty, and support for military families. Senator Kerry is campaigning for the position of commander in chief. Yet he does not seem to understand the first obligation of a commander in chief — and that is to support American troops in combat.

In his years in Washington, John Kerry has been one of a hundred votes in the United States Senate — and very fortunately on matters of national security, his views rarely prevailed. But the presidency is an entirely different proposition. A senator can be wrong for 20 years, without consequence to the nation. But a president — a president — always casts the deciding vote. And in this time of challenge, America needs — and America has — a president we can count on to get it right.

On Iraq, Senator Kerry has disagreed with many of his fellow Democrats. But Senator Kerry's liveliest disagreement is with himself. His back-and- forth reflects a habit of indecision, and sends a message of confusion. And it is all part of a pattern. He has, in the last several years, been for the No Child Left Behind Act — and against it. He has spoken in favor of the North American Free Trade Agreement — and against it. He is for the Patriot Act — and against it. Senator Kerry says he sees two Americas. It makes the whole thing mutual — America sees two John Kerrys."



So, they just made this up that Cheney had said something that he didn't say so that they could lead into the "All this from a man who didn't go to Vietnam, yadda, yadda, yadda as if anybody cared if Cheney ever went to Vietnam. These guys are completely clueless. If they would lie about something so stupid they would lie about anything.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-31-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 9:18pm
Thank you for that well researched and thorough post! I know that takes a long time to do, but it's so worth it.
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Registered: 07-20-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 9:48pm
>>For the 4,353rd time. Bush joined when his until was stationed in VIETNAM.<<

I think this quote explains Bush's choice to join the Air National Guard.

George W. Bush

"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0434/robbins.php
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Registered: 03-31-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 9:51pm
You've got this so wrong. It was about dealing with tough choices and harsh realities then in Vietnam, and it's about dealing with tough choices and harsh realities now, in Iraq. Those who are behind Kerry know he made a tough choice in volunteering to serve in Vietnam, and then spoke out about harsh realities when he got home. The two are not mutually exclusive, but go hand in hand. You seem to think people are either rabidly anti-war or rabidly pro-war. Most rational people are squarely in the middle, and have the base line feeling that it had better be absolutely, without question, worth it. I hope and pray that Iraq doesn't become as terrible a situation as Vietnam did.

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 9:58pm
Isn’t it plagiarism when you copy someone else’s words exactly and do not give them credit for it? I knew you got this from a left wing website. It turns out you copied from two left wing sites instead of one, but you were mistaken to think I wasn’t smart enough to find them.

All but the second and seventh paragraphs can be found verbatim at the “Thousand Reasons” website http://www.thousandreasons.net/listB.pdf

And the second and seventh paragraphs can be found verbatim here: http://www.showmeissues.com/blog/archives/000326.html

These are pretty extreme left wing sites, are they not?

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:02pm
It doesn't take long at all to plagiarize. Please keep in mind how wild the accusations are becoming from the left wing. You are too smart to get caught in the trap. Do your homework, M.C.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:04pm
It's OK to kill an antiquated weapon. It's not OK (at least to me) to vote against modernizing it.
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Registered: 04-05-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:08pm
The "quote" from Zell Miller was a prepared introduction of that Kerry's handlers gave to Zell Miller when he was the Gov. of Georgia so that he could introduce Kerry that day. He didn't write it, and he had no reason to doubt the truthfulness of it at the time.

It wasn't until he came to the Senate that he saw what was really going on, and who Kerry really was.


Edited 9/4/2004 10:10 pm ET ET by iminnie833

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Registered: 07-20-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:14pm
Where did you get that explantion iminnie?
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-31-2003
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:41pm
Whoa there...you may be a CL now but that doesn't mean you can declare yourself the winner of past debates! It's not a myth, and it's not dead. The news cycle just moved on.
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Registered: 04-05-2004
Sat, 09-04-2004 - 10:46pm
The first line of attack from Democrats (who hypocritically honor dispicable Robert KKK Byrd) on any person from the south is racism. The day after the speech people were accusing Zell Miller of being a segregationist. When that didn't stick, they said he was "supporter of the segregationists". Here are the facts about Senator Miller:

1) Supported a pro-civil rights agenda

2) Never joined any racist organization

3) In 1993, pushed to have the Confederate emblem removed from the state flag

4) Pushed to confirm all of the President's judges, regardless of race, color, or creed, said the President nominated judges that "looked like America"

Andrew Sullivan is angry about President Bush's stance on Gay Marriage, so he is supporting Kerry. He said that a few months ago. So I suppose he *would* take issue with "Give them He--, Zell".

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