BUSH IS EVIL

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Registered: 08-20-2004
BUSH IS EVIL
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Wed, 09-08-2004 - 10:51am
After reading all these posts, its seems fruitless to even argue with eachother. Bush is just plain evil. That's it. He will be remembered in 100 years (if he doesn't destroy the world before then) as a terrible person, like Pinnochet, Stalin, etc. There is no arguing. He is causing misery and heartache to too many people to ignore this fact.

Bush just wants to start a holy war. And the fundamentalist Muslims want to keep him in power so the war can begin.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 4:51am


Elaine

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Registered: 07-05-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 8:23am
Well, let's see...the first WTC bombing, 1993. Khobar towers, 1996. USS Cole 2000. Who was the President? None other than Bill Clinton. As I've said before, if the rest of the world is so in love with John Kerry, they should create an elected office and elect him to it. How come the rest of the world wants John Kerry to lead everyone but them?
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-24-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 9:22am


You know, I agree with you up to a point. I am one who had absolutely nothing, and worked very very hard to support my son with the help of no one. It can be done. However, there are many times that people can not. People who are handicap whether physically or mentally have daily challenges that they often can't cope with. Welfare is a helping tool and should not be used as a way of life.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 9:50am
Those are requests to comply with inspections. Still, as I said before, the inspectors had found nothing and still have found nothing to this day.
Donna
Donna
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Registered: 03-31-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 11:16am
You have a very short memory. Terrorism has been a problem for years, starting in the late 70's. During Reagans two terms, American citizens were killed or kidnapped at an alarming rate. Here's a list to remind you that anti-US terrorism didn't start under President Clinton, and in fact, many of the worst terrorist incidents which occured during the Reagan and Bush I years went unresponded to (unless you count breaking US standard policy and actually negotiating with the terrorists as a response...which brought us the arms for hostages scandal.)

To see detailed accounts including US repsonse, go here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html

Nov 4, 1979 - 52 Hostages taken at the US Embassy in Tehran.

April 18, 1983 - Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut - 63 people killed, including 17 Americans and CIA officials.

October 23, 1983 - Bombing of Marine Barracks in Beirut - 241 US Marines killed. Four months later, US pulled all forces out of Lebanon.

December 12, 1983 - Bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait. 6 people killed, 80 injured.

March 16, 1984 - CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped, died in captivity.

Sept. 20, 1984 - Bombing of U.S. Embassy annex northeast of Beirut - 24 dead

Dec. 3, 1984 Hijacking of Kuwait Airways Flight 221 - hijackers killed two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development

June 14, 1985 Hijacking of TWA Flight 847 - hostage Robert Dean Stethem, a U.S. Navy diver, was shot and his body dumped on the airport tarmac.

October 1985 - January 1986 Hijacking of cruise ship Achille Lauro - US Citizen Leon Klinghoffer killed.

January 1986 Bombing of Rome, Vienna airports - 20 people inc. 5 Americans killed

April 5, 1986 Bombing of La Belle Discotheque - A West Berlin disco was bombed because it was a popular night spot for US soldiers. 1 US solider was killed. US bombed Libya in retaliation. 3 students at the American University in Beirut shot in retaliation for retaliation.

December 21, 1988 Bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 - All 259 people on board were killed, along with 11 on the ground.












iVillage Member
Registered: 07-12-2001
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 12:51pm
Do you REALLY believe there are "links" on the Internet to everything our intelligence community knows about Iraq and al-Qaeda and other security issues? Don't you think that would seriously compromise our national security?

I'm glad you "like links." But sorry, there are some things that are just not public knowledge, nor should they be. Therefore, it is up to all of us to make the best decision possible with the information to which we have access. That is what I am doing, and so are you.

And sorry, too, that I don't have time to respond to every little detail in your post and others'. I have a life outside of this message board, which means I don't have time to type screeds that would take up several pages and spend hours tracking down "links" on the Web. I'm glad others do, though. Keep up the good work!

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 07-20-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 1:07pm
>>What makes you believe it's the sole responsibility of Bush/the US to fight against terrorists, and gather worldwide support?<<

Simply put, I don’t.

Worldwide support is there for fighting terrorists.

Bush’s invasion and occupation of Iraq is a separate matter.

>>Why do you seem to ignore that there's a Coalition in Iraq and a slightly different Coalition in Afghanistan?<<

I am well aware that there is support for action in Afghanistan from countries that do not support Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

Your use of the word “slight” tends to suggest the difference is inconsequential.

As a citizen of a country involved in the efforts in Afghanistan but not Iraq, from my perspective the difference is not inconsequential.

>> Kerry and his supporters are greatly insulting their efforts, their accomplishments, their families and loved ones, their deaths (!), by stubbornly ignoring the fences that didn't need mending. In fact it is Kerry who broke them with this arrogant attitude.....and people say Bush is arrogant and a "fear-monger"??? <<

You are entitled your opinions.

However, my sympathy and support for soldiers in a dangerous and unnecessary (IMO) situation in Iraq as a result of orders from their superiors, is not for you or anyone else to question or criticize. I know that foreign troops in Iraq, of whatever nationality, are only following orders and trying their best to fulfil duties assigned to them. They and their families have my understanding and support.

My criticisms are directed solely at the failure in leadership, which leads directly to President George W Bush.

Secondly, to suggest Sen. John Kerry is responsible for world opinion against Bush’s invasion and occupation of Iraq is ridicules, IMO.

These criticisms were leveled at President Bush long before Sen. Kerry was in the picture.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-24-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 2:14pm
I am just wondering how you are able to come across certain information that is not intended for the general public. If it is becuase of someone you know, then it is no wonder why we will never be safe.

I have to say that having someone like you knowing things that most don't, jepordizes our national security. People need to keep their mouths shut, in and out of the government. I had to sign a security agreement because I will be handling alot of government papers in Iraq. I do not think, no I know I would never, say something that is anything I read.

So it would be best for you to keep any and all information you hear second hand that can't be proven by us "normal" citizens to yourself. You may not care about our security, but I sure do.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-12-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 7:15pm
Gee, Bev, doesn't the term ideal sort of insinuate unrealistic anyway? could you suggest a more IDEAL society? or is that impossible? If someone calls me idealistic, usually they are putting me down. Just because YOU disagree does not mean that it is unrealistic you know.
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-12-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Sat, 09-11-2004 - 7:24pm
Oh wrong post, I misread. Ok what do you not understand about the us harboring terrorists, now that we are on the smae topic here. The USA has a good lot of terrorists also, some small scale, some large scale. My point is that there are terrorists all over the place, not just in the middle east, as Bush would have you believe.

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