BUSH IS EVIL

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Registered: 08-20-2004
BUSH IS EVIL
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Wed, 09-08-2004 - 10:51am
After reading all these posts, its seems fruitless to even argue with eachother. Bush is just plain evil. That's it. He will be remembered in 100 years (if he doesn't destroy the world before then) as a terrible person, like Pinnochet, Stalin, etc. There is no arguing. He is causing misery and heartache to too many people to ignore this fact.

Bush just wants to start a holy war. And the fundamentalist Muslims want to keep him in power so the war can begin.

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Registered: 08-07-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 8:14am
Did you think when this war started that there would be over 10 thousand Iraqi civilians killed? How many did you estimate? How many Iraqi dead justifies bringing freedom to the Iraqis? How many civilian deaths in Iraq is too many?


Edited 9/13/2004 8:15 am ET ET by allianor
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Registered: 02-16-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 8:43am
Let me get this straight - you're so concerned for the Iraqis that, if you had had your way, they would still be living under the rule of Saddam Hussein. How many did HE kill? I suppose Iraqi deaths only concern you when it is our guys causing them. Are you saying that the Iraqi deaths that have happened since we went to war are somehow worse than what Hussein was doing to them? Hussein killed hundreds of thousands of his own people every year (you do remember the mass graves that we found, don't you?), not to mention the thousands of women who were raped by his sons or Secret Police, often in front of their family, or the hundreds of thousands of people he tortured, maimed, starved, and imprisoned, including children. The deaths of the Iraqi civilians will stop when things stabalize in Iraq, but if you had had your way, the deaths, torture, rapes, and imprisonments would have continued indefinitely under Hussein and later his sons. So which is worse? Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Iraqis murdered, tortured, maimed, raped, starved, and/or imprisoned, or 12000 killed in a war that freed them from Hussein?
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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 8:49am
<<"I think that no matter what I say you will find a way around it">>.... Donna I can honestly say that I'm not even trýing to find a way around anything. On the contrary, if anything I'm struggling my way thróugh it. It's just that when I read your posts I (almost) always find that they lack fact (or I must have missed something, which is when and why I asked you to back up what you state), so I try and provide them (even if you won't), but néver

Djie

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Registered: 01-05-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 8:54am
AMEN!

And no, I didn't know how many Iraqi civilians would die in the war, just as I didn't know how many of our brave men and women would die. I didn't even know if my husband, who fought in Iraq would come home to me alive and unscathed.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 9:04am
<<"I didn't even know if my husband, who fought in Iraq would come home to me alive and unscathed.">> ... So glad he did and thank him for his commitment from way over the other side of the Big Pond! :)!

Djie

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Registered: 07-12-2001
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 9:39am
"Uh oh, it's Clinton again, who has been out of office for 4 years."

Well, yes. Do you honestly believe that what he did in office isn't having an effect on us now? Lots of folks in the military/intelligence community believe that by gutting our intelligence infrastructure the way he did, he himself was directly responsible for 9/11. And it will take years, probably decades, to put that infrastructure back in place.

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 10:55am
So (my) logic has it that: Either Blix has not been telling the truth when he was IN office I need 18 months to make sure
Donna
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Registered: 08-21-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 10:59am

Lots of folks in the military/intelligence community believe that by gutting our intelligence infrastructure the way he did, he himself was directly responsible for 9/11. And it will take years, probably decades, to put that infrastructure back in place.


Of course you do. That is so ridiculous I am not even going to respond to it. Blame it on Clinton, who told the new Bushees when they came into office that Bin Laden was their biggest threat and they ignored him. Yeah, blame it on Clinton. The Republican Way. It was Bush who changed the way the intelligence structure worked and created the danger for us all. It is detailed in Against All Enemies by Richard Clarke who worked for three past administrations in intelligence.

Donna
Donna
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Registered: 07-12-2001
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 11:04am
"Blame it on Clinton, who told the new Bushees when they came into office that Bin Laden was their biggest threat"

So he says. Then again, he also said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman ......" Why anyone believes ANYTHING the man says is beyond me.

Bev


Edited 9/13/2004 11:09 am ET ET by bgs3

girl in chair
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Registered: 07-12-2001
In reply to: nisa77
Mon, 09-13-2004 - 11:06am
"It is detailed in Against All Enemies by Richard Clarke who worked for three past administrations in intelligence."

And as Renee pointed out to you, almost everything in that book has already been discounted as false. But, you'll believe it anyway, because it suits your agenda.

Bev

girl in chair

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