BUSH IS EVIL

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Registered: 08-20-2004
BUSH IS EVIL
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Wed, 09-08-2004 - 10:51am
After reading all these posts, its seems fruitless to even argue with eachother. Bush is just plain evil. That's it. He will be remembered in 100 years (if he doesn't destroy the world before then) as a terrible person, like Pinnochet, Stalin, etc. There is no arguing. He is causing misery and heartache to too many people to ignore this fact.

Bush just wants to start a holy war. And the fundamentalist Muslims want to keep him in power so the war can begin.

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Registered: 08-05-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 12:28am
Fox news? I don't trust them. Only news source I really trust personally is CNN or MSNBC. Check out www.outfoxed.com for why I personally don't trust Fox anymore. Unless it's like local news or whatever but if it's major Fox stuff I personally don't think so. But of course that's me. *shrug* Heh heh, that reminds me of an episode of the "Simpsons" (8x10) when Homer and Bart are trying to get proof of an alien (it ends up being Mr. Burns) and they're going to video tape it and Homer says they'll send it to Fox network and Bart says they'll buy anything. I wonder how true that is. They always have little inside things in episodes. XOXO.
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Registered: 08-05-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 12:30am
I agree personally. The people who aren't involved in politics or the officies anymore have no reason to not tell the truth I think cause they don't have to worry about getting ripped apart by other politicial persons and worrying about their careers going down the drain whether things are true or not, so why would they need to hide info? XOXO.
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Registered: 08-05-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 12:59am
Maybe that's the reason why Bush and co. are so against abortion? Remember back when he was younger he had a girl have an abortion? Sorry I don't know where but I read about it somewhere here. How to find that link who knows and there's sooo many messages to try. Makes me think about the O.I.L. name as well...especially since they changed it. XOXO.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 4:36am
You're very welcome Palak. I think it gave a very wide impression of several aspects re outsourcing. I agree that only time will tell :).

Djie

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 7:11am
Apologies for responding only now. I overlooked your reply. <<"I think you should have said in effect, not in fact.">>.....you are right, thanks.

Djie

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Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 9:03am
It is really funny to hear people from both sides criticize O'Reilly, which truly shows that he is an Independent and is tough on both Republicans and Democrats alike.

The more people on each side complain, the more proof there is that he is a tough, but fair news / political analyst.

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Registered: 07-12-2001
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 9:24am
"It is really funny to hear people from both sides criticize O'Reilly, which truly shows that he is an Independent and is tough on both Republicans and Democrats alike. The more people on each side complain, the more proof there is that he is a tough, but fair news/political analyst."

ITA! Most of the people I hear criticizing him ARE liberals ... but as an occasional listener of Rush Limbaugh's show, I have heard him exhorting his listeners to "ignore, ignore, ignore" what O'Reilly says. Why? Gee, could the fact that O'Reilly criticizes Limbaugh on a semi-regular basis have anything to do with it?

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 02-16-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 11:26am
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Actually, Bush used ALL of those as justifications, and he did so from the beginning - he did not change his justification as time went on. I refer you to the speech he gave at the UN on 09/12/2002. He actually did not use the WMDs as the main reason; his #1 reason, as he stated to the UN, was that Hussein had not complied with the 16 UNSC resolutions that required him to, among other things, account for the WMDs everyone knew he had in the past.



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It's not that hard to tell whether or not a regime is evil. And no, I wouldn't have a problem doing whatever was necessary to stop brutal dicatators from slaughtering their own people. Whether or not we invade would have to be determined by the situation, but I believe that we have a moral OBLIGATION to stand up to and stop evil, not just express sadness and condemnation of it while we stand around and do nothing to stop it.

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I don't feel "smug" about Iraqi deaths. I'm sorry if I made you ill, but if you think my attitude makes you ill, do some reading on some of the truly sick and horrific things that Hussein did to his people while he was in power. That makes ME ill. I don't think that people are expendable, or that the ends always justifies the means, but I also know that you can't have a bloodless war, either.

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Do you really think that Hussein wouldn't have found weapons from somewhere else? He would have been the same man regardless of our involvement. The Soviet Union also supplied him with weapons.

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Yes, I suppose we could just take the "it's not our problem attitude" toward world affairs. If it doesn't directly impact us today, then don't think about it. We've TRIED that before. We tried it before WWII - Hitler was Europe's problem, not ours. After all, Hitler wasn't planning on invading the U.S. Why did we get involved in someone else's problem? As a result, Hitler was able to run practically unchecked through Eastern Europe. What might have happened had we taken Hitler out pre-emptively in 1936? or 1939? How many millions of lives would have been saved?

The Taliban took power in 1996 and installed one of the most brutal and oppressive regimes in the world, but it wasn't our problem, so we did nothing. After all, the Taliban couldn't attack us. Yet what might have been if we HAD taken the Taliban out on nothing more than humanitarian justification? Would 9/11 have been prevented? We'll never know now, because it wasn't our problem.

Hussein was an admitted, public supporter of terrorism, especially Hamas. Regimes like Hussein's are nothing but trouble for the rest of world, and they are nothing but trouble for us, even if we don't see the direct threat right now. I prefer acting BEFORE they become "our problem," because they will usually become our problem sooner or later.

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Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Wed, 09-15-2004 - 10:54am
Yes, and the left dont do the same?

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-16-2004
In reply to: nisa77
Wed, 09-15-2004 - 10:54am
What lies are these?

Care to elaborate, or are these just the DNC talking points?

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