Killian Office Memo Not Similar to CBS

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Killian Office Memo Not Similar to CBS
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Sat, 09-11-2004 - 11:16am
CBS memo: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf

An analysis done on CBS memo: http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=60minbusted.swf

Memo from military (click 'enlarge' icon): http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc25.gif

And some funny comments: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212833/posts

I want to see how the Sunday morning lib shows will spin this. What I want to know is how the DNC planned to get away with these forgeries knowing that ALL sources are easily verifiable on the internet?



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Registered: 03-31-2003
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 6:54pm
Pop Quiz: Is it Information?

<> Information? No. It's sarcasm.

<> Information? No. It's a question. Was I even talking about John O'Neill?

<> Information? No. It's an argument. (Something that's usually backed up by information, but in this case it's an equivilancy your pointing out, which is fine.) You're arguing that it's not fair if the Dem's won't let the Rep's use the same argument they've used against the swifties. I guess you could say you're informed me of your opinion. A few posts ago I said you're absolutely entitled to this opinion, but just don't go around supporting it with untruths, like "Barnes is employed by Kerry."

<> Information? No. Another argument.

<> Not information either. You've informed me of your low opinion of "leftists" - a term I really, really wish you'd stop using. Which means you'll just use it even more.

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Registered: 09-06-2004
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 7:03pm
No problem.....
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Registered: 11-13-2003
Tue, 09-14-2004 - 7:09pm
OK, let's use a little common sense.

If A provides a service to B and B is intended to profit in some way because of A's service, then A has worked for B. I call A an employee of B, making no distinction as to whether any money changed hands between B and A. Unpaid employees exist in many organizations, e.g. foundations (and 527's). They may not receive cash compensation, but are often provided with office space, a phone, and access to organizational facilities, for which the organization must pay. Perhaps you call these people "volunteers", but they receive compensation in some fashion by the organizations they serve.

Several here have argued that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and anyone who says the memos are forgeries are not to be believed because they're associated with Republicans, yet they tell us that Barnes and widely allegedly forged memos (with plenty of "alleged" supporting evidence, against one CBS "authority") are to be believed even though Barnes "works for" Kerry.

em·ploy·ee also em·ploy·e = A person who works for another in return for financial or other compensation.

--per here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=employee

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Registered: 04-16-2004
Wed, 09-15-2004 - 10:30am
I am not sure if Barnes is on the Kerry payroll, but he is a longtime Kerry supporter, and he is a chief fundraiser for Kerry as well.

Here is the link....from Kery's website:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/topfundraisers.pdf

Also, with regards to the memo's, if you read what the Chicago Tribune recently wrote, what ABC News is saying, CNN, and the Washington Post, you will see that even two of CBS's own experts said that they are not sure of the authenticity of the memo's as there are severe questions, and doubts about them.

I also heard on MSNBC or CNN last night that (reporter or editor from the Chicago Tribune...cant recall his name) says he thinks that 60 Minutes II will be issuing some form of retraction tonight.....this should be good, and another knock on Dan Rather.

The bottom line is that CBS did not do their homework on these documents, and seemed to have dismissed all of the people that said they were most likely fakes, as well as talking to other people who would corroberate the Killian family story. It doesnt look good for CBS at this point in time.


Edited 9/15/2004 10:35 am ET ET by debateguy

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Registered: 09-02-2004
Wed, 09-15-2004 - 7:40pm
Tracy, i love your post, well thought out and nice. W also stands for wanker,wanna be,wrong, and WMD, he is the Weapon of mass destruction.
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Registered: 04-16-2004
Thu, 09-16-2004 - 11:33am
I guess the F in Kerry stands for Fraud, Fake, Falsehood, and something that I cannot type then....using your reasoning....right?
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Registered: 01-05-2004
Thu, 09-16-2004 - 1:01pm
Very true! LOL!
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Registered: 09-02-2004
Thu, 09-16-2004 - 5:34pm
are you the one that said W stands for winner?
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Registered: 04-16-2004
Fri, 09-17-2004 - 10:38am
Not me.

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