CHENEY MISLEADS IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION

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CHENEY MISLEADS IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION
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Mon, 09-13-2004 - 10:31pm
CHENEY MISLEADS ON IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION

Displaying a brazen disregard for the facts, Vice President Cheney told an audience in Cincinnati Thursday that Iraq had "provided safe harbor and sanctuary...for Al Qaeda." There is no evidence to support Cheney's claim. The 9/11 Commission - which spent months exhaustively studying the issue - concluded there was no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al-Qaeda.

After the release of the report, Cheney claimed there was "overwhelming" evidence of a relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq and that he had "probably" seen evidence that was not shared with the commission. After investigating the matter, the 9/11 Commission found "it had access to the same information the vice president has seen regarding contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraq prior to the 9/11 attacks." The commission also reaffirmed its position that it had not discovered a "collaboration-cooperation between al-Qaeda and Iraq."



Sources: 1. "Cheney Says Iraq Harbored Al Qaeda," Los Angeles Times, 9/10/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54791.

2. "Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed," Washington Post, 6/17/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54792.

3. "Cheney blasts media on al Qaeda-Iraq link," CNN, 6/18/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54793.

4. "9/11 Panel Upholds Iraq-al-Qaida Finding," ABC News, 7/7/004, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54794.

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Thu, 09-16-2004 - 4:12pm

Books:


Against All Enemies, by Richard C. Clarke


Worse Than Watergate: By John Dean


Plan of Attack: by Bob Woodward


The intelligence was wrong, yes. They had been told the intelligence was wrong, that there was no evidence to prove that Iraw had WMDs or any ties to Al Qaeda. This is just common knowledge now.

Donna

Patriotism means to stand by the Country. It does not mean to stand by the President. -- Theodore Roosevelt.

Donna
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Thu, 09-16-2004 - 4:34pm
Like I said, evidence, not conjecture. I've read Woodward's book, I must have missed the part where it says Bush exaggerated the intelligence or ignored contrary intelligence. Could you provide me with a quote where it states that? Clarke had been completely discredited as a liar, by the press and by the 9/11 commission. Once again I ask if you can produce one piece of evidence that shows Bush was lying.



Sorry, just repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. There IS evidence that Iraq had ties to al quaeda, there IS evidence that Iraq had WMD's and WMD capabilities, there ARE chemical and biological weapons that Saddam was known to possess that still to this day have never been accounted for, there is now evidence that the statement regarding Saddam's attempt to obtain uranium from Niger was actually true, there is NO evidence that Bush lied about the stockpiles of weapons everyone on the planet expected to be found. You still have not managed to come up with an explanation of how such a bumbling fool in your estimation managed to convince the whole world that the intelligence was correct, while he alone knew it was wrong.

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Thu, 09-16-2004 - 7:59pm
Okay, let's make a deal...Ted Kennedy will wear a colorfull lapel pin that reads "I Killed an Innocent Girl in a DWI" if George Herbert Walker Bush will hand out leaflets where ever he goes anywhere, explaining how he helped arm Saddam Hussein and negotiated with terrorists. Deal?
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:41am


"Good grief.......I think the just about lámest cop-out in ány debate..."


An awful lot of words to try to obscure this.....


Remarkable though it is, the find is unlikely to be the 'smoking gun' the US and Britain are looking for.

Representatives from the Mukhabarat are known to have travelled to Kandahar in the late Nineties to build links with al-Qaeda. Most analysts believe, however, that the ideological differences between the Iraqis and the terrorists were insurmountable.

The talks are thought to have ended disastrously for the Iraqis, as bin Laden rejected any kind of alliance, preferring to pursue his own policy of global jihad , or holy war.

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:50am
Clarke had been completely discredited as a liar, by the press and by the 9/11 commission. Once again I ask if you can produce one piece of evidence that shows Bush was lying.


Sorry, just repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. There IS evidence that Iraq had ties to al quaeda, there IS evidence that Iraq had WMD's and WMD capabilities, there ARE chemical and biological weapons that Saddam was known to possess that still to this day have never been accounted for, there is now evidence that the statement regarding Saddam's attempt to obtain uranium from Niger was actually true, there is NO evidence that Bush lied about the stockpiles of weapons everyone on the planet expected to be found. You still have not managed to come up with an explanation of how such a bumbling fool in your estimation managed to convince the whole world that the intelligence was correct, while he alone knew it was wrong.


You are the one who is repeating the same sh#t over and over.

Donna
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:57am
"there ARE chemical and biological weapons that Saddam was known to possess that still to this day have never been accounted for, there is now evidence that the statement regarding Saddam's attempt to obtain uranium from Niger was actually true, there is NO evidence that Bush lied about the stockpiles of weapons everyone on the planet expected to be found. "


Well, then we can come to only one conclusion.


Since Iraq itself has been gone over with a fine tooth comb, and these mythical WMD, Uranium, and these stockpiles of weapons are NOWHERE to be found, then thanks to George Bush and the Bush Leaguers they are now in the hands of terrorists and rogue states.

Well, that tears it for me. How many times can I vote for the guy who butchered 1024 American troops and maimed 7000 of them in order to transfer Iraq's WMD, Uranium, and vast stockpiles of weapons to terrorists and rogue states? Point me to the polls, I'm a born again Banana Republic-an. Let's continue turning this country into the hemisphere's largest Banana Republic.

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 10:37am
Nah...I think McAulliffe is sending out his own version of the 9/11 report, which was co-authored by Michael Moore.
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 10:46am
Sure, except it wasnt GHW Bush that armed Hussein
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:15pm
I believe Metrochick said Bush Sr. "helped arm Hussein"; he helped his boss Ronald Reagan do so....
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:46pm
And this was in response to the Iran / Iraq war where we chose a side to support. At the time, do you think that Reagan knew that Hussein would turn out the way he did some 20 years later? Doubtful.

We also made a similar miscalculation in judgement in the 60's when we decided we would go in to help get France out of Vietnam. Do you recall that?