CHENEY MISLEADS IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION

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CHENEY MISLEADS IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION
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Mon, 09-13-2004 - 10:31pm
CHENEY MISLEADS ON IRAQ/AL-QAEDA CONNECTION

Displaying a brazen disregard for the facts, Vice President Cheney told an audience in Cincinnati Thursday that Iraq had "provided safe harbor and sanctuary...for Al Qaeda." There is no evidence to support Cheney's claim. The 9/11 Commission - which spent months exhaustively studying the issue - concluded there was no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al-Qaeda.

After the release of the report, Cheney claimed there was "overwhelming" evidence of a relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq and that he had "probably" seen evidence that was not shared with the commission. After investigating the matter, the 9/11 Commission found "it had access to the same information the vice president has seen regarding contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraq prior to the 9/11 attacks." The commission also reaffirmed its position that it had not discovered a "collaboration-cooperation between al-Qaeda and Iraq."



Sources: 1. "Cheney Says Iraq Harbored Al Qaeda," Los Angeles Times, 9/10/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54791.

2. "Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed," Washington Post, 6/17/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54792.

3. "Cheney blasts media on al Qaeda-Iraq link," CNN, 6/18/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54793.

4. "9/11 Panel Upholds Iraq-al-Qaida Finding," ABC News, 7/7/004, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2254501&l=54794.

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:52pm
No, I'm sure he didn't, but the whole thing was still found to be illegal; I didn't say it was right or wrong, just that it's a fact.
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 12:53pm

<<"An awful lot of words to try to obscure this.....">> ..... What's the matter? Too many of my own words/thoughts for you to comprehend?


Like I said:

Djie

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 1:01pm

You draw very strange conclusions from what liveanew has been saying.

Djie

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 9:04pm


He had plenty of reason to lie-one, he's a disgruntled ex-member of the administration, two, he knew enough controversy would stir up lots of Micheal Moore worshipping, Bush-hating sales of his book. He's on tape directly contradicting his 9/11 commission testimony, and several commission members have said that his baseless blaming of the tragedy on the Bush administration is the main reason the commission descended into a partisan circus. Still waiting for that quote from the Woodward book, though, the one where he says Bush exaggerated intelligence and ignored contrary intelligence.



Fine-you cite it as a source, I read it and I dispute that what you claim is contained within it. I can't prove that it ISN'T in the book, but you have the power to prove it is if you choose. And I never said Saddam OBTAINED uranium, thank God he didn't, no thanks to France, Germany and Russia who played fast and loose with the sanctions. What I said is that he TRIED to obtain it, and there is evidence he did try to. Like your whole "memogate" argument, the document was fake, but as it turns out the content was real, and in THIS case there is actually evidence to support that.

http://www.command-post.org/2_archives/012009.html

April 30, 2004

Joe Wilson flip-flop: Wilson now says Iraq DID seek uranium from Niger, Africa

This bombshell is buried on page A-16 of today’s Washington Post:

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It was Saddam Hussein’s information minister, Mohammed Saeed Sahhaf, often referred to in the Western press as “Baghdad Bob,” who approached an official of the African nation of Niger in 1999 to discuss trade — an overture the official saw as a possible effort to buy uranium.

That’s according to a new book Joseph C. Wilson IV, a former ambassador who was sent to Niger by the CIA in 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq had been trying to buy enriched “yellowcake” uranium. Wilson wrote that he did not learn the identity of the Iraqi official until this January, when he talked again with his Niger source.





Yes, when someone starts introducing profanity into a debate about facts that's usually my cue to end it. (By the way, might want to read TOS-"veiled" profanity such as you are using is a violation just like real profanity. It's also a sure sign of someone who is losing the debate, IMO.)


Edited 9/17/2004 9:06 pm ET ET by liveanew

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Sat, 09-18-2004 - 12:31am
Actually, we were supporting both sides. Remember the Iran Contra scandal?

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It was already common knowledge that Hussein consolidated his power by having most of his rivals executed, and common knowledge that he was using chemical weapons against Iran. Yeah, he got worse, but he was already really, really bad.

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Sat, 09-18-2004 - 12:41am
Earlier this evening I was watching on the Sundance channel the Michael Moore movie "Bowling for Columbine." He talked about how we were scared by fear into doing things while other countries weren't with shootings and all that. One part he showed footage from the 90's war and how the US bombed this one factory they BELIEVED to be a place where they were doing WMD. But after that all happened you know what it was? An ASPRIN factory. Then that time they raided that church and all they found was over the counter cold medicine. I think the thing that gets a lot of people upset (like myself) is they don't investigate these things well enough before going in and bombing people's work places, schools, going into people's homes and dragging them out and/or just bombing them. :\ I know I would be pretty pissed too if I was living over there. :\ XOXO.

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