Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 1:37am

Ok, I posted something on Kerry, now I will post something on Bush.  What do you all think?  Do you think it is a good idea for a judge to order this so we can finally put this darn issue to rest, do you think this is bogus, do you not care, or what?  Let me know!


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040916/ap_on_el_pr/bush_guard_records_1&printer=1


WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.


 


U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.


Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.


"We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz.


White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.


Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year.


Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions.


Bush's critics say Bush got preferential treatment as the son of a congressman and U.N. ambassador. Critics also question why Bush skipped a required medical examination in 1972 and failed to show up for drills during a six-month period that year.


Bush has repeatedly said he fulfilled all of his Air National Guard obligations.


The future president joined the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, when he graduated from Yale. He spent more than a year on active duty learning how to fly and then mostly flew in the one-seat F-102A fighters until April 1972.


The pilot logs show a shift to flights in two-seat trainer jets in March 1972, shortly before Bush quit flying. Former Air National Guard officials say that could have been because F-102A jets were not available for Bush to fly or because of other reasons, such as concerns about Bush's flight performance.


Bush skipped his required yearly medical exam in 1972 in the months after he stopped flying in April. Bush has said he moved to Alabama to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of a family friend.


Bush never showed up for Guard service between late April and mid-October 1972. He won approval to train with an Alabama Air National Guard unit during September, October and November 1972, but more than a dozen members of the unit at that time say they never saw him there.


The only direct record of Bush appearing at the Alabama unit's base is a January 1973 dental exam performed at that base. Bush's Texas commanders wrote in May 1973 they never saw him between May 1972 and April 1973, a time when his pay records show he trained on 14 days.


Although military regulations allowed commanders to order two years of active duty for guardsmen who missed more than three straight months of drills, that never happened to Bush. Commanders had leeway at the time to allow guardsmen to make up for missed drills.



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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 4:17am
I think that the more this so called "issue" is perpetuated the less people will pay attention to the real issues of the economy, national defense and social programs.


Elaine

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 10:03am
Elaine,

I couldn't be in more agreement with you. Even on a board like this, the conversation is dominated by protecting the spin, on both sides. What about the issues. When someone does post something of value, the thread dies quickly. I know that I don't contribute to them, I just hope that those that do understand the facts will, like Mirage and Debateguy on the assult weapons ban issue. Now that was informative!
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 10:21am
Exactly.

The news is currently covering 3 items.

1) Hurrican Ivan and its damage.

2) CBS and memogate

3) Laci Peterson

Every now and then you get a smattering of Michael Jackson, but that is about it.

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 1:51pm
They are still talking about the Laci Peterson case?

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:07pm
I think if they want to ever end this they need to do something. XOXO.
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:09pm
Who's Laci Peterson and what's up with that? I don't watch the news all the time and havent't really heard anything on this. XOXO.
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:22pm
You're still hearing about Laci Peterson too? I thought it was just here, in California. Or maybe you're in CA, too? If not, didn't realize it still got such nationwide coverage......how sad.
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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:26pm
Yup .... PEOPLE magazine does an update on the trial every week, even when there's basically nothing new to report (as there really hasn't been since Amber Frey was on the witness stand).

Bev

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:29pm
agreed, but will it truly end, I wonder?

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Fri, 09-17-2004 - 2:30pm
Yep...

They cover it almost on a nightly basis.

I dont mind being kept up to date, but I really dont care that Scott Peterson shed a tear during the viewing of the autopsy photos. I think he is going to be shedding quite a few more tears when he is in the general population of a maximum security prison.

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