Anti-war songs

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Anti-war songs
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Sat, 09-18-2004 - 1:38am
Being a music freak I love finding out about new music. Here's some anti-war music for you to listen to. There's Beastie Boys (definite recommend), Green Day and even country legand Willie Nelson. http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/000628.html is where you can download the songs. :) XOXO.

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Registered: 05-12-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 3:49pm
Actually, I did not forget, and though 9/11 was horrid, I do not feel threatened, If I worked for the governement I might feel it a little more so, but the actual occurrence of 9/11 is not so large scale as it is memorable. Yes, a lot of people died but are they out there terrorizing in every city on every corner, as were the nazi soldiers in germany? Do they impose a curfew on us, and restrict what we do, see, and hear? Are you truly afraid to leave the house? your odds of dying due to a killer wart hog coming at your door are about as big. That is my point. Nobody is denying 9/11, but wouldn't you love if they did? then you could be really right.

Take school shootings, they are bad, nobody can argue that, but after columbine happened, you had metal detectors in schools, kids saying they were afraid to go to school but schools, high schools in general, even CONSIDERING columbine, statistically remain the safest place for kids to be. If you really are scared, then you have allowed the media to scare you. The actual events are such a slim chance. There is NO war here on American soil. NO battles, not a lick of terror since 9/11, and before that it was the oklahoma bldg, and inside job. You might want to try putting it into perspective... During columbine, how many high schools in the US were NOT being shot up by class mates? People die, you take that chance every time you walk out of the house, and even in your house. and it is never fair, and a LOT of people die at the hands of others, and evil seems to win, people are torn from our lives constantly, and seldom do we think it is fair, and there is always grief, and one death is never more significant than another, no matter who or how many died along with them. All loss is real. It is wrong, and sickening what happened on 9/11, but no more wrong and sickening than any other life lost. 'tis true.

but just for the sake of argument, what "many other attacks against the US by the terrorist groups" are you talking about?

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Registered: 09-06-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 4:18pm
Are there several PBS'?? I only get two, just regular PBS (on my local public tv affiliate) and then we have the PBS Kids station (on our Directv), but that's it. My husband says the only truly unbiased news can be found on C-SPAN, because it's (as HE says) "straight from the whores' mouths"........ ;-)
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Registered: 08-31-2003
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 4:26pm
I am not 'scared', but I don't want to be niave either. I'm glad you have not forgot 9/11, by the admitted sarcasm of your previous post, I truly wondered exactly what you considered an attack against the people of the US of that size to be. As for other terrorist attacks, I'm not going to list them all, I know that you keep up with this board, so you have seen them listed more than once. They date back many, many years.

I agreee, we all need to have the facts of the threat of terrorism against the US in perspective. How bad do things have to get in your book before we take things seriously? This isn't a game of school yard chicken.
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Registered: 03-25-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 4:38pm

That's as good as the latest "Bushism, where he infers

 

The last time anyone listened to a Bush, they were lost for 40 years!   Looks like we're doomed to "wander" ano

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 7:59pm
I agree with that. And on Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" he was talking with Canadian's about shootings and secruity and all that with them and they said they don't worry about it and even leave their doors unlocked at nights. I thought that was weird and kinda crazy and they think we are for doing so, but I agree that I don't worry too much about 9/11 and don't really watch the news unless it's like the local noon news or something. XOXO.
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Registered: 05-17-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 8:30pm
Yes, but bush has proved his incompetence at striking back appropriatly and effectively to these attacks. The first was the USS Cole. When intel came back confirming it was Osama who was responsible for that attack it was when bush was in office and he did NOTHING. He failed at keeping us safe that following year which resulted in 9/11 attacks and THEN he bogged us down in Iraq (WMD's??? yeah, right.) Uh, Osama bin WHO???? Bush is WEAK on terrorism. In fact he played right into their hands and fulfilled beyond their greatest hopes - he has divided our great country, he has lost respect for us internationally, he publicly humiliated iraqi detainees via our military.

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Registered: 01-05-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 8:36pm
CLINTON, not Bush was in office when the USS Cole was attacked. The USS Cole was attacked October 12, 2000. Why don't we check our facts before we post next time?
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Registered: 05-17-2004
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 9:02pm
Yes, Clinton was in office when the strike occurred, but the intel did not confirm it was Al-Qaeda until Bush was in office. Of course it was assumed that bin laden was responsible, but you can't conduct a military strike on assumptions.

This was an issue with the 9/11 commission. WHY didn't bush strike back when he received confirmation of who was responsible? Know what condoleeza's response was when asked by the 9/11 commission? Something to the effect that they didn't want to start a "tit-for-tat" kind of thing with Al Qaeda. Boy that bush is really tough on the terrorists, huh?

Don't worry, this stuff will all come out in the debates. That is if bush is leader enough to go through with them. I hear he is reluctant to debate Kerry. Can't blame him though, bush is pretty dim-witted.

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Registered: 08-31-2003
Sun, 09-19-2004 - 10:52pm
I would rather actually discuss the topics than play around with meaningless rhetoric. But thanks for the response anyway.
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Sun, 09-19-2004 - 11:21pm
No, I think you just can't respond to my post. My post was factual. Your post was fearful propoganda that republicans use in their campaign...be afraid America, 9/11, terrorists.....BOOO!

bush has accomplished nothing in the 4 yrs he has been in office even with a republican congress. terrorism is the only thing he has going for him. he knows that... look at the polls. he has effectively exploited 9/11 to scare Americans into supporting him. Yet, he has not waged an effective war on terror.

Look, it's no coincidence that the red states are the poorest and most uneducated states, bush knows that. He knows stupid people scare easily and that's what he and the administration are counting on.

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