Anti-war songs

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Anti-war songs
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Sat, 09-18-2004 - 1:38am
Being a music freak I love finding out about new music. Here's some anti-war music for you to listen to. There's Beastie Boys (definite recommend), Green Day and even country legand Willie Nelson. http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/000628.html is where you can download the songs. :) XOXO.

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Thu, 09-23-2004 - 8:16pm
I think that's the song a lot of now day pop stars re-recorded. They had people like Justin Timberlake, Bono from U2, Nelly, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears. They had a really touching video too that was on MTV a lot there for a while when it was still new. It was out around the 9/11 event. I'm sure you can probably find it online somewhere. XOXO.
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Thu, 09-23-2004 - 8:18pm
How did he die? I don't know too much about him sadly. Only older music I listen to is 80's rock and heavy metal. Heh heh. XOXO.
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Thu, 09-23-2004 - 8:39pm
Sadly, Marvin Gaye was shot by his own father in an argument. And as always seems to be the case with tragic deaths of musicians (a la John Lennon) he had just made an astonishing comeback.

http://www.freep.com/motownat40/archives/040284mo.htm

Singer Marvin Gaye shot to death

April 2, 1984

BY W. KIM HERON AND GARY GRAFF

Free Press Staff Writers; Free Press wire services

Marvin Gaye, one of Motown's greatest hit makers, was fatally shot in the chest Sunday after a fight with his father, police said.

Gaye was at his parents' home in Los Angeles on the eve of his 45th birthday when he became involved in a fight with his father and was shot several times with a handgun, police said. Police took his father, Marvin Gay Sr., into custody after the shooting, said Lt. Robert Martin.

The elder Gay was booked for investigation of murder, police said. He was being held without bail.

An argument began Saturday night "over some insurance dealings" and resumed Sunday, Martin said. After shoving each other in a hallway, the elder Gay got a .38-caliber handgun and fired two shots into his son's chest, Martin said. Gaye's mother, Alberta, 71, ran next-door to the home of her son, Frank, who called police.

Gaye was taken in critical condition to California Hospital. He was pronounced dead at 1:01 p.m. (4:01 p.m. Detroit time), said hospital spokeswoman Michelle Barker.

Born and raised in Washington, D.C., Gaye was an artist who could suffer setbacks and rejuvenate himself rather than accept defeat.

After the death of his singing partner, Tammi Terrell, in 1970, Gaye withdrew, but then made a triumphant comeback with the album "What's Going On," which probably will be remembered as his most important musical statement.

In the early 1980s, after several years of marital, drug and financial difficulties, he returned from what he considered an exile in Europe with the song "Sexual Healing," which rocketed to the top of the charts and won Gaye two 1983 Grammy awards.

But that was Gaye's last comeback.

Motown Records publicist Bob Jones, reached at his Los Angeles home, spoke for many, saying, "I'm deeply saddened. It's a tragedy."

Singer Mitch Ryder said, "It hit me the same way (John) Lennon's death did. I was stunned ...He was poised, had already made his comeback. We were waiting to see what he could do next to follow 'Sexual Healing.' It's like when a policeman gets shot and it affects all policemen; entertainers feel the same kind of thing."

The third of five children, Gaye began singing in his father's Pentecostal church in Washington, D.C. His professional career began as a member of the group Harvey and the Moon glows, best known for their hit "The Ten Commandments of Love." Although Gaye joined the group late in its existence, he followed leader Harvey Fuqua to Detroit, where Fuqua became a behind-the-scenes force at Motown Records.

Gaye began as a studio drummer for the label. Bandleader Earl Van Dyke said Sunday that it was obvious from the beginning that Gaye was destined for stardom.

SOON MOTOWN began recording Gaye as a singer. In 1962, on his third release, "Stubborn Kind of Fellow," he hit it big. Gaye was one of the singers at Motown who wrote or co-wrote the bulk of his material.

He was co-author of "Dancing In The Street," and as a writer- producer with the Originals he cut "Baby, I'm for Real" in 1969 and "The Bells" in 1970.

This year, his 1968 hit "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" was reissued and featured in the film soundtrack of "The Big Chill."

Of his delivery, Gaye said, "If you notice, I sing a lot of different ways, I sing rough, falsetto, I don't have a classic voice that comes from the diaphragm ...Voice I do not possess so I developed a style."

Gaye sang duets with a number of Motown's female singers, including Kim Weston, Mary Wells and, most succesfully, Terrell.

Terrell collapsed in his arms on stage during a concert in 1967, and died three years later of a brain tumor. Gaye grew despondent when Terrell died and for a while considered leaving music in hopes of trying out for the Detroit Lions football team.

Gaye was never given a tryout, but Lions Mel Farr and Lem Barney helped Gaye through the period. The phrase "What's going on?" came up during a game of golf between the three. Farr and Barney convinced Gaye to return to the studio to record it. With it's sometimes haunting melodies and unique merger of soul and social consciousness, it was the album where, Gaye said, "I became my own man."

Many consider the album the first "concept" album by a black artist. The album revealed a poignant and passionate concern with urban decay, ecological crises and spiritual impoverishment.

But by the late 1970s Gaye's career and his marriage to Anna Gordy, sister of Motown founder Berry Gordy Jr. and 17 years his senior, were running out of steam. Marvin and Anna divorced in 1976 with Anna receiving $600,000 in royalties from Gaye.

Nonetheless, typical of Gaye, he turned his heartaches and divorce into music on his albums "Here My Dear" and "In Our Lifetime."

"I found myself in the studio, crying into the microphone. Without that, without my music, the ordeal might have broken me," said Gaye.

He also declared bankruptcy, just before the Internal Revenue Service told him he owed $2 million in back taxes.

Gaye said he once tried to kill himself by ingesting more than an ounce of pure cocaine while in Hawaii after the breakup of his second marriage to Janis Hunter, who was 17 years younger than Gaye.

Gaye fled to Europe as his problems mounted. It was there that he said, "Now I am the artist I always wanted to be."

With the help of longtime collaborator Harvey Fuqua, he made a comeback and moved to Columbia Records. On "Sexual Healing" he came to grips with a new sound and revived himself as a hit maker. He followed the hits with a national tour late last spring that included a Detroit appearance.

But even during his comeback, he told audiences that he feared there was little time left for mankind.

During his exile, he tried to explain the way he felt: "The gloom is real, and the doom is our fate. Five more years. Ten at the most. Then it'll be over."

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Thu, 09-23-2004 - 8:48pm
Your welcome, you can go to Kazza.com, put a search on marvin gay and it will list all of his songs, hits or misses.
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Thu, 09-23-2004 - 8:56pm
How sad for the guy. :( I have heard his song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" though. It was on that show with the cartoon grapes that was popular in the early 90's when I was a kid. Sad his own dad shot him. :( I could never imagine shooting a kid that was mine. :( XOXO.
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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 2:05am
I am all for using our military for reasons of atually helping other less powerful nations, or even a people within a nation who want to be peaceful in whatever they are doing but are not allowed. IF and only IF that is our reason for going in. I learned in my american schools that we went into WWII to help the poos Jews who were being persecuted and that we were heroic in saving them from certian death and destruction. IT was not until I was at least a teenager that even peek at the truth of why we were there was shown to me. I thought we were heroes. It turns out that we were in a war and we just happened to be able to do something good while we were there. If it were just for the humanity of it, no, we woudl not have been there, and if there had been no genocide, we would have still gone in. Ok so, I am concerned with motive. I distrust America for this purpose. I am still proud to be an american, I have hope for our country.

I think our influence is mainly affluence. We are rich. The lower class people in our country only have one car and two t.v. sets, and four pairs of blue jeans. We are in a way that we could help people. Think of how much money we have spent on this war effort. We could have saved so many suffering. THe oil for food program was just ridiculous. the oil is their power. they know it. Imagine them tryign to take texzs or alaska and offer food in return. Look at it this way, if ever there was a clear indiator of our motive for being there, it is indeed the oil for food program. If we were really liberating those "poor" iraqi's from their tyrant of a ruler, then wouldn't we jsut be able to give them some food? BUT we are a country that does not really like the idea of welfare, (unless it is for a corporation) and so we simply cannot have it that way, we need the world to be our own reflection before we will help out. Seems our goal is to put "democracy" everywhere, but we dont use a democratic way of getting it there. I do not have the answers for these problems, but I believe they are there. I cannot believe otherwise.
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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 2:54am
ALright, you are right, I was wrong, the WTC was not a government building.

You said, "1. The World Trade Center was NOT a government building(s).

2. The people who worked there were NOT government employees"





GOVERNMENT OFFICE THAT WENT DOWN IN WTC bulidings

regional IRS

U.S. secret service

Mayors office of emergency management

U.S. department of commerce

the beaureau of alohol tobaco and firearms

department of agriculture

department of labor

Import export bank of the U.S.

the council of state governments

NY court of claims

U.S. express mail

New York board of trade

Nichols foundation

waterfront comission of New york

NY tax department

Royal thai embassy office

Port authority of NY and NJ

NY soiety of security

Korea local authorities

NY metro transportation council

I dont know where you come from, but in my neck of the woods if your paycheck IS SIGNED the u.s. government, then you are a government employee.

Please tell that to all the families who lost a loved one that worked for one of these agencies on 9/11 that the people who worked there were not government employees.

They, as I, will beg to differ.

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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 3:13am

Djie

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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 2:51pm
You are showing me this why? maybe you only looked at page (bldg)one. But, whatever the deal is, you are enforcing my point. so... thanks then.
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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 4:04pm
"But, whatever the deal is, you are enforcing my point."

Not if your point was that government employees have more reason to fear terrorism than the rest of us, which I believe is what set off this entire exchange. Mind you, I didn't count, but it looks to me like they were a small minority of those who worked in the WTC.

Bev

girl in chair

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