Michael Moore disses Kerry & Democrats

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Michael Moore disses Kerry & Democrats
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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 9:17am
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40553

ELECTION 2004

Michael Moore's latest:

Kerry a lousy candidate

Filmmaker eager to defeat Bush

says Democrats are 'so pathetic'

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Posted: September 21, 2004

2:55 a.m. Eastern








Filmmaker Michael Moore, who makes no secret about his desire for President Bush to lose re-election, is now calling Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry "a lousy candidate," and says the Democratic Party is "pathetic."

"If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win," writes Moore, "Dammit , of course he's a lousy candidate – he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win!"

The comment is part of an open letter posted on Moore's website, as the director of "Fahrenheit 9/11" tries to rally the anti-Bush forces in the wake of recent polls which suggest a boost for Bush since the Republican convention:


Look at us – what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate – he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run – and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president – Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have.

But despite the criticism of Kerry and the Democrats, Moore insists Bush can be defeated at the ballot box Nov. 2.

"Bush is a goner – if we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies," continues Moore. "Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. ... It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They are never finished – they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying."

Moore tells readers it's time for a reality check, and that recent polls showing Bush ahead are not correct.

"They are all over the map like diarrhea," he says, claiming polls based on "likely voters" tend not to include young people who don't have a voting track record.

Moore finishes by issuing a final plea to those who'd like to see the president lose.

"The country is almost back in our hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face."



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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 9:22am
Amazing .... I was just coming here to post this and you beat me by mere minutes! Great minds think alike. ;-)

Bev

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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 9:26am
Now will you believe the many posters here who've said Moore isn't a Democrat?
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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 10:14am
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Yes, I don't know how many times I've posted this myself. For those who hated Moore so much that they refused to watch Farenheight 9/11 but still felt that they had the authority to critique it I said that the Democrats did NOT get a free ride in that film and they were not immune from being critisized themsleves.

Moore is right. Kerry is doing a dismal job with this campaign. It's hard to believe but just about anyone could have pulled together an argument good enough to bring about the downfall of GW Bush. I love the line comparing the Republicans to sharks. It is soooo true and that is their strength. However, I'm not too comfortable with single-minded, primitive sharks running a country.

"They are never finished – they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying."

If the Republicans are sharks, I'd say the Dems are like a deer caught in the headlights. Have you ever been driving down a country road at night and a deer comes onto the road? Parylized with panic, they spend a long time bounding down the road right in front of the car instead of figuring out that they could just jump off into the brush on the other side.

It should be obvious that Kerry should not have spent so much time defending himself and attacked Bush on his myriad of weaknesses (it just kept the focus on Kerry's shortcomings and off of Bush's). All it would have taken were a few pithy lines said with humour debunking the claims against him in the right forum and he should just have moved on and kept his eye on the ball.

Whatever one says or thinks about Moore (and there is a lot to critisize). He's intelligent, a skilled film-maker, and he tells it as he sees it. Sometimes he goes a little over the top but often than not, he's bang on the money (and a lot of people are rather uncomfortable with that).

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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 10:21am
I noticed there was some stuff missing so here's the whole, I guess, letter from Moore's site:

http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-09-20

Put Away Your Hankies...a message from Michael Moore

9/20/04

Dear Friends,

Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"

Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.

They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.

Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.

My friends, it is time for a reality check.

1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these polls.

2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.

3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose come this November.

So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

Yes...Yes...Yesssss....He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?

Yours,

Michael Moore

www.michaelmoore.com

mmflint@aol.com

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Tue, 09-21-2004 - 10:29am
Moore is a Democrat, he just may not like Kerry, which seems to be a problem that Kerry has.
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Wed, 09-22-2004 - 8:00am
Yes, a person can find fault with a party & still be a member of it. He's a member of the "Anybody but Bush" Party. If Democrats could vote again for a candidate to run against Bush, I doubt Kerry would do so well. Now they're stuck!
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Wed, 09-22-2004 - 8:13am
;-) If Moore is not a Democrat, like some say, what is he? An independent? If it walks like a duck & talks like a duck... One can be a member of a party & still find room for improvement in it, so I'm not amazed he can be dissatisfied with the Democrat Party & Mr. Anybody but Bush. It's not just the Republicans, etc.
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Wed, 09-22-2004 - 8:23am
Well, now I have to agree with you on that point. Kerry was not my choice of Dems for a candidate. He should have never had the Hershey squirts of his mouth on his Vietnam era. He should have only brought out all Bush's weaknesses, and lies, and flip-flops.He messed up! But Bush has messed up big-time in Iraq. This war was a self serving/ hoping for another 4 years to mortgage our country even deeper into debt. I will vote for him,for I do feel he has a better plan for our country,Georgie had a plan too, to help his Wealthy Cronies, his buddy Dumb slick Dick, and his Saudi friends. Oil Rules!
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Wed, 09-22-2004 - 11:09pm
You see, a liberal and a democrat are not the same thing, though a lot of liberals will be voting democrat this year. However, Moore has never claimed to be a democrat. He has ALWAYS dissed democrats. He just dislikes republicans more.