Disrespectful Kerry

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Registered: 09-16-2004
Disrespectful Kerry
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Fri, 09-24-2004 - 10:26am
What nerve he has to say that Allawi is not telling the truth. Has Kerry been to Iraq lately? When did he actually talk to the troops that are stationed in Iraq. When was he over there to make the first hand judgement call. I think Allawi knows more about what's going on in his country than Kerry does.

My brother serves our country, and he tells a different story than what Kerry would have us all believe. Troop morale, is very high. They all believe we are on the right track....and are heartened by the Iraqi people's support of the American troops in-country. I've spoken with a few of his soldier mates, and they are disgusted by Kerry... Interesting stuff!


http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/24/cheney.ap/index.html


ST. JOSEPH, Missouri (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney chastised Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry on Thursday, saying his criticism of Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi showed an appalling "lack of respect."

Allawi, who was in Washington on Thursday to address a joint meeting of Congress and meet with President Bush, gave a rosy portrayal of progress toward peace in his country. (Bush, Allawi pledge cooperation)

Shortly after he spoke, Kerry said the prime minister's assessment contradicted his own previous statements as well as the reality on the ground. (Kerry: Allawi's assessment contradicts reality)

Cheney said Kerry was being disrespectful of a man who had survived an attack by Saddam Hussein's assassins.

"I must say I was appalled at the complete lack of respect Senator Kerry showed for this man of courage, when he rushed to hold a press conference and attack the prime minister, a man America must stand beside to defeat the terrorists," Cheney told several thousand supporters.

"John Kerry is trying to tear down all the good that has been accomplished, and his words are destructive to our effort in Iraq and in the global war on terror," Cheney said. "As Prime Minister Allawi said in his speech, and I quote, 'When political leaders sound the siren of defeatism in the face of terrorism, it only encourages more violence.' End quote."

Cheney said Kerry has changed his position on the Iraq war many times and that voters face a clear choice on November 2 between Bush's "steadfast leadership and clear determination" and Kerry, "who seems to adopt a new position every day."

The audience mocked Kerry with chants of "flip-flop! flip-flop!"

Michael Golden, a Kerry spokesman in Missouri, said Kerry was simply telling the truth about the situation in Iraq.

"He is leveling with the American people," Golden said. "That is what we need in a president."

Kerry, who was in Ohio on Thursday, said of Allawi: "I think the prime minister is obviously contradicting his own statement of a few days ago, where he said the terrorists are pouring into the country. The prime minister and the president are here obviously to put their best face on the policy, but the fact is that the CIA estimates, the reporting, the ground operations and the troops all tell a different story."




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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 09-24-2004 - 4:42pm
>>Hmm. "Unnecessary occupation"...that must be what you call staying until the job is done.<<

Nope. That's what I call invading and occupying a country to find WMDs that weren't there and diverting resources from finding and capturing bin Laden & al quada, who attacked the USA on Sept.11, 2001.


"no exit strategy"...let's see...

>>1. turn power over to new Iraqi govt. (done) <<

So American troops in Iraq are under Iraqi command? Amazing

Ultimate power is still held by Bush and his administration due to the instability.



>>. provide military force until the Iraqi's can build up their own means of security (doing) <<

The Iraqis had their own means of security and Paul Bremmer fired them all.

In Iraq, volunteers are lined up like lambs to slaughter outside police stations making convenient targets for insurgents.



>>3.help facilitate elections in Iraq <<

Donald Rumsfield has said recently that some parts of Iraq are so out of control elections cannot be guaranteed there in January 05.

Allawi has stated (and backed away from ) hints that insurgency could delay elections.


>>4. stay until the insurgents are killed/captured (doing)<<

When Bush pitched his war, it was said that US troops were going to be welcomed with flowers and sweets.

An insurgency wasn't planned for.




Edited 9/24/2004 6:07 pm ET ET by blueishxx

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Registered: 05-21-2004
Fri, 09-24-2004 - 9:34pm
How could we have known that there were not the stockpiles of WMD that EVERYONE thought there were unless we went in? Saddam certainly wasn't being cooperative with U.N. demands of disclosure. We did find weapons of mass destruction, at least enough to kill about 300,000 people...or is that not MASS enough for you? There are still thousands of troops in the middle east persuing Al Queda and OBL, what news do you watch?

The American troops are to defend themselves by whatever means necessary AND they are working with the Iraqi govt. on coordinating military efforts.

Hmmm...Do you think the Iraqi people would keep lining up to become policemen if they DID NOT want democracy to succeed? Freedom is worth dying for, especially for these people and the hell they've lived in for 30+ years.

Yeah, things are difficult there. But they have to set goals and plow forward or elections won't ever happen.

The Iraqi people as a majority do support U.S./allied efforts there. Of course there were going to be objectors, those who benefited from Saddam being in power know that there is no place for them. A free Iraq means the end of terrorist tactic rule.

Line up those names again...blame em' all. But are you willing to give them credit when this gets fixed? And it will.

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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 09-24-2004 - 11:27pm
>>How could we have known that there were not the stockpiles of WMD that EVERYONE thought there were unless we went in?<<

Everyone huh?

How come so many countries found the evidence unconvincing?

The inspectors should have been allowed to finish their work.

Bush was wrong and he will be held responsible.

Deal with it.
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Registered: 04-16-2004
Sat, 09-25-2004 - 9:09pm
Oh, France is already providing support in this conflict, in military supplies and ammunition......too bad it is to the enemy though!

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