Debate tonight

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Debate tonight
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Thu, 09-30-2004 - 10:54pm
So, what did everybody think? This debate was my first (missed last yr's) and I enjoyed it. I liked how they were both respectful to each other and professional. No sighing, making facial expressions, slouching etc. I can't wait for the vp debates. :) XOXO.

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Registered: 03-15-2004
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:05pm
"We don't need the UN as they have filtering money for the Iraquis (sic) food supply into their own bank accounts..."

Source please? Thanks!

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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:25pm
>>He said Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when the CIA said he is in Pakistan.<<

Actually they thought bin Laden was somewhere in the large mountainous region on the Afghanistan – Pakistan border.

Who knows where he is now?

Bush certainly doesn’t appear to.

He apparently doesn’t think about it much either, remember?

>>He also stated that he would form alliances (already done)<<

Ok I know how this one goes.

I say he meant an alliance that didn't leave the US with 90% of the casualties and spending 90% of the money.

Then someone jumps all over me for insulting America’s real allies.

so you can skip that part.

>>Iran was sanctioned in the Clinton administration and Bush has continued it.<<

Well you’re partially right.

Bush chose to not enforce the Iran sanctions enacted under Clinton before he chose to enforce them.

And Cheney didn't support them as CEO of Haliburton before he became VP and supported them.

>>>In March 1995, Clinton signed an executive order that prohibited "new investments (in Iran) by U.S. persons, including commitment of funds or other assets." It also restricts U.S. companies from performing services "that would benefit the Iranian oil industry. Violation of the order can result in fines of as much as $500,000 for companies and up to 10 years in jail for individuals."

When Bush and Cheney were sworn into office in 2001 the administration decided it would not punish foreign oil and gas companies that invest in Iran or other countries that sponsor terrorism, including Syria and Libya.

The sanctions imposed on countries such as Iran and Libya before were blasted by Cheney before he became vice president, despite claims that those countries may have ties to terrorism.

"I think we'd be better off if we, in fact, backed off those sanctions (on Iran), didn't try to impose secondary boycotts on companies ... trying to do business over there ... and instead started to rebuild those relationships," Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia's Illawarra Mercury newspaper.<<<

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0407/S00178.htm

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:31pm
Don't take this as gospel, but I THINK questions are submitted ahead of time from undecided voters (this is what my husband has heard) and the moderator is there to make sure no one candidate gets more questions, or tougher questions than the other. I thought people in the audience could just stand up & ask, but I guess not......who knows what people might say in such a situation!!!!????? They'd have to use that famous 5 second delay!
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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:38pm
That's the basic gyst as I understand it too, momeebear.

I think there's some other condition that the audience is to be made up of undecided voters, half leaning Kerry, half leaning Bush.

Not sure how they will determine that.

There's probably a bunch of other details as well.
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:45pm
I know, I know!!!!! NO other administration! One of my husband's favorite examples is how WWII was financed by raising taxes up to (I think) 91%.......financed the war. (Of course, at the time, only the VERY rich were being taxed....) Am I right? What do I win? ;-)
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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:54pm
Bingo!

Give the lady a stuffed bear!!!

It's basic stuff like this that makes me wonder how Bush ever got an MBA.

From Harvard no less.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:57pm
<<"I'm weary of writing sharp posts and I'm weary of reading insults.">>.....nówhere have I been insulting. It wasn't me who wrote: <<"Spit it out. Or shut up.">>...

Djie

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 5:07pm
Nope, I wasn't rattled. I was disappointed that Lehrer didn't ask sKerry to be specific in any of the times he declared that he would be a 'better' president. Better how??? Is it too much to ask for specifics of the Democratic candidate? Apparently so. Still, the debate went as expected, at least for me. sKerry was all over the place contradicting himself whereas the president stayed on message.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 5:09pm
Could you please cite your source? I would like to do further research regarding your claims.
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Registered: 07-20-2003
Fri, 10-01-2004 - 5:16pm
>>I didn't assume any such thing, I ásked about the where-abouts of sóme comment to paparic's post, so as to verify/affirm/back up blah blah blah.<<

Oh now I see. You didn't assume I should submit a post.



You were wondering where a post was that you thought I should submit.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Please send any other suggestions on this particular subject to: iwontcare@anytime.soon

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