Debate tonight

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Debate tonight
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Thu, 09-30-2004 - 10:54pm
So, what did everybody think? This debate was my first (missed last yr's) and I enjoyed it. I liked how they were both respectful to each other and professional. No sighing, making facial expressions, slouching etc. I can't wait for the vp debates. :) XOXO.

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 2:13am

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 2:57am
The Daily Show is almost the only news I watch any more. It is irreverent but it highlights aspects of the news that regular reporters should be paying more attention to.
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 3:11am
30 allies? Ha! That's a good one. Thanks for the laugh. Tell me one more time how many troops were sent by El Salvador, or Denmark , or Mongolia, or Macedonia, or the Philippines. And what is the name of those tiny islands from the south Pacific?

Oh yeah, don't forget Poland.

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 3:14am
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 4:21am

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 7:40am
I am so glad that you brought that up. It makes me sick when Kerry continually paints himself as this big war hero when the REAL heros are fighting the war now. I have to admit that I am a Republican and huge Bush fan so that definitely makes me biased, but no matter what party you are affiliated with, I believe that most Americans (whether you support the war in Iraq or not) can appreciate what our troops sacrifice for us on a daily basis. In case you haven't seen the Swift Boat ads, you should check them out to see what Kerry's fellow officers are saying about his service in Viet Nam. While viewing them you must remember that these are EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS:

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=Ads

I've also included Kerry's 8 different stances on the war in Iraq for those of you who need a little bit of a refresher on Kerry's record on this issue please read the following:

In Response To Question Four John Kerry Said, "My Message To The Troops Is Also Thank You For What They're Doing But It's Also Help Is On The Way. I Believe Those Troops Deserve Better Than What They Are Getting Today." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

The Real Record: Kerry Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding To Equip Our Troops In Iraq And Afghanistan With Essential Supplies Like Ammunition And Body Armor.

Kerry Has Already Taken Eight Positions On The $87 Billion:

Kerry Said It Would Be "Irresponsible" To Vote Against Funding Troops. Doyle McManus (LA Times): "If that amendment does not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?" Kerry: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to – to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible." (CBS' "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)

Kerry Claims "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It." (Sen. John Kerry, Speech In Huntington, WV, 3/16/04)

Kerry Later Said He Was "Proud" That He And Edwards Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding For U.S. Soldiers. "Here is the value that John Edwards and I will put in place. I'm proud to say that John joined me in voting against that $87 billion when we knew the policy had to be changed." (John Kerry, Remarks at "Women's Voices: A Luncheon with John Kerry," Boston, MA, 7/12/04)

Kerry Then Said His Vote Against Body Armor And Supplies For Troops Was "Complicated." (MSNBC's "Imus in the Morning," 7/15/04)

Kerry Even Said His Vote For The War And Against Funding For Our Troops Was "Not A Flip-Flop."(CBS' "Evening News," 7/21/04)

Kerry Then Defended His Vote Against The $87 Billion By Saying President Bush "Didn't Have A Plan To Win The Peace, It Was Irresponsible To Give A Blank Check That Gave $20 Billion That Was Going To Go…To Halliburton And All These Other Companies." (Mike Allen And Lois Romano, "Closing Laps In Race To November," The Washington Post, 9/4/04)

Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental. KERRY: "Because I saw what was happening. I voted against it -- absolutely voted against it. I'm glad I voted against it. Because we now see that that $20 billion hasn't even been spent effectively. Most of it's going to Halliburton in fraud and no-bid contracts which is completely inappropriate. I'd fire Halliburton tomorrow." (CBS' "The Late Show With David Letterman," 9/20/04)

Kerry Said His Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental "Was A Protest. Sometimes You Have To Stand Up And Be Counted." KERRY: "But it reflects the truth of the position, which is I fought to have the wealthiest people in America share the burden of paying for that war. It was a protest. Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted, and that's what I did." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 9/29/04)

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 7:59am
<<"30 allies? Ha! That's a good one. Thanks for the laugh. Tell me one more time how many troops were sent by El Salvador, or Denmark , or Mongolia, or Macedonia, or the Philippines. And what is the name of those tiny islands from the south Pacific? Oh yeah, don't forget Poland.">>.... of the 26,000+ that is 3500+ troops. That is 3500+ families you are ridiculing. Shame on you!!

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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 8:04am
Whose says that a CANADIAN has any say in AMERICAN politics anyway? The Canadians have been against the war since the beginning and nothing has changed since. The efforts of ONE SINGLE PERSON who is willing to risk their life for the freedom of another should be respected and admired.
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 8:09am
No one is putting down the countries who are helping. What we are saying is these countries & the "coalition" is weaker than usual. We are taking on 90% of the burden.
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 8:34am
I don't really see how our situation now is really that much different from other major military actions. We bailed everybody out during WWII and we lost 58,226 in Vietnam. We take on the majority of the burden because we CAN. I don't know about anyone else, but I support the war in Iraq for two reasons. One: We have troops there risking their lives everyday. Two: As an American woman I simply can't fathom what it would be like to be a woman in Iraq. I can't imagine living in fear. I can't imagine not being free. It's that simple. Can you imagine a life in which you weren't free?!?

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