Kerry Likely Cheated In Debate

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Kerry Likely Cheated In Debate
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Sun, 10-03-2004 - 4:20pm
DRUDGE Report today shows video of Sen. Kerry cheating during debate. Despite agreement by both participants that notes could not be used during the debate - Kerry apparently brought notecards to the podium. LOOKS LIKE THE SMOOTH TALKING SENATOR CHEATED!

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Registered: 04-16-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:49am
If Edwards is unprepared, and Cheney has an opening, Cheney could use Edwards as his speed bag.

I dont think Cheney would do that either however, as Cheney in debates seems to take the more civilized road. I look back at the snoozefest that was the 2000 VP debates, where he and Lieberman could not stop agreeing with one another.

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Registered: 04-16-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:51am
Kerry did not have better command of the facts, as the facts that Kerry presented were the ones that he himself made up.

The only thing that Kerry did better was speak, which everyone knew he was going to do as he is an excellent orator.

Bush failed to speak well, or explain his positions, which more people are in line with, at least on Iraq, where Bush, even though he lost the debate, still holds a lead in whom people feel will do a better job in protecting them against terrorists (and it is by a large margin still).

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Registered: 07-12-2001
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:53am
"Kerry need not be great, all he has to do is do like Ford 1974-77. Is all I ask."

Wow .... that's rather frightening. Considering what is at stake for this country, I certainly expect much more of our president (whomever it turns out to be) than that.

Bev

girl in chair
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Registered: 04-04-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:56am
I'm interested to know what John McCain said about John Kerry being "a traitor to all who fought courageously". I hadn't heard that.

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Registered: 08-21-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:58am

Where was Kerry for that year? He got three purple hearts and therefore could go home. I won't comment on the rest of the tripe you mentioned since it has been talked to death and you will believe the lies told by the Bush ads whether

Donna
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Registered: 04-04-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:58am
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Hmmm. That doesn't sound too inspiring. Sounds like it's a choice between the lesser of two evils.

:oD

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Registered: 03-24-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 12:01pm
Ok, we'll play.

"Carter was better in what areas?

We had one of the worst recessions and energy crisis under Carter in the history of the US.

We had American hostages sitting in the US embassy in Iran for well over a year."

Recession was caused by what? American companies that made lousy cars being outdone by companies that made better ones. And an energy crisis triggered by the fall of Iran, and their hatred of us... which was incidentally because of foreign policy that supported a dictator. Nixon's buddy.

And the hostage crisis came out of that. Carter tried to do something, but... oh, wait... he was flying the hellicopters and got sand in their engines, right? And then some of Reagan's people met illegally with the Iranians to cut a deal. I would love to see your reaction if Kerry did this in Iraq.

>>Lets see...LBJ....He took the Vietnam War, and made it into a total quagmire by not listening to the advice from his military commanders in the field or those in Washington, thereby lengthining the war, and ultimately causing the US forces to withdraw without having completed their objective.<<

LBJ was a bastard, plain and simple, and I cheered when he announced he was not running again. And Vietnam was a disaster... just as Iraq is for this president. Yet his social policy did give his administration redeeming value... enough to make it better than this guy's.

I disagree with the lengthening the war stuff. I hear people say such things and laugh. They conveniently forget the Big Concern... that China would get involved if we went too far. 2 million Chinese in Vietnam would have meant... you figure it out. Nixon also understood that line could not be crossed.

>>Nixon....I never brought that administration up, as if it were not for Watergate, it would have gone down as a great 8 years.<<

Nixon was a social liberal, btw. Again you forget some issues... it wasn't just Watergate... the man and his staff were paranoid. They spied on people. Watergate was not having sex with a secretary... it was an assault on America. His own Secretary of Defence told commanders in North? Carolina to disregard any Nixon orders to send troops to Washington. That was in the last dying gasps of his administration. Meaning he feared a coup attempt.

And then there were failed price controls. Middle East policy that brought the first oil embargo. His vp was a nutcase.








iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 12:02pm
Yes but Edwards is not Lieberman.

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Hmmm, that might explain the choice of Edwards as contrast to Cheney.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-24-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 12:02pm
>>Kerry did not have better command of the facts, as the facts that Kerry presented were the ones that he himself made up.<<

I have obviously missed a debate. Someone clue me in as to what happened.

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Registered: 03-24-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 12:04pm
>>Wow .... that's rather frightening. Considering what is at stake for this country, I certainly expect much more of our president (whomever it turns out to be) than that.<<

Bev, it would be nice... but look at it from the other direction. You aren't coming anywhere closing to achieving such a standard now. There is nowhere to go but up.

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