Fahrenheit9/11

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Registered: 06-25-2004
Fahrenheit9/11
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Wed, 10-06-2004 - 10:01am
Has anybody seen this?I was in total shock!It was a shock to see how much of a trader our president really is!Not to mention a liar & a cheat!I am so disgusted in him!I cant believe that some ppl have the nerve to say that democrats are always up to their dirty tricks! Ha! Those of you that think that really need to rent the video Fahrenheit 9/11.Sad that I had to wait for it to come out on video because the REPUBLICANS did not want the truth to be known in the theaters!God help this world!Because our politicians aren't!

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Registered: 04-16-2003
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 4:51pm
I just saw the movie and I am very angry. Kerry already had my vote, but I liked Bush and thought he was a good person.... I stated on one of the posts that I liked him because he is Christian.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Bush family is horrible! Bush pulled a "Martha Stewart" years ago.... Bush has done so many things, and yes THEY ARE FACTS. Don't cut down the movie until you see it. There is NO WAY it was "made up". It is factual!


I hope the FBI doesn't hunt us down for expressing ourselves!!!!!!!!!!




Edited 10/9/2004 4:54 pm ET ET by gypsyoflove

 

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Registered: 04-16-2003
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 5:05pm

 

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Registered: 08-11-2004
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 9:14pm
This is a bunch of bull. I cannot believe grown people cannot see through the slimey, greaseball Michael Moore. You must not watch or read or listen to anything but liberal bias all day long. Michael Moore is self-proclaimed Bush hater. His movie distorts, takes out of context, and just plain lies. He is a scumbag who wants you to pay him for propaganda. You really need to pay attention to the real facts. The United Nations, whom Kerry wants to form alliances with, are traitors to the United States. Russia. France, China, and several other countries had been selling weapons to Saddam. He was bribing them to lift sanctions so he could start up his weapons program again. The military has also found discs in Iraq showing the security plans on our American schools. Why do you think Iraq has them, do you think they were there for a reason? Could it be that our schools are being targeted just like Russia? Think people. We are dealing with crazy people who do crazy things. Michael Moore and John Kerry are the real enemies. Watch what you ask for!
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Registered: 12-07-2003
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 9:26pm
I notice you like to tell people you have the real facts, yet you neglected to reply to my post which contained links to information about Kerry's navy records from an unbiased source. I know I cannot tell you what to reply to, but I would really like to hear what you think about the records, in which you claim show Kerry lies, after reading the articles posted on factcheck.org.

Here's the link to my post:

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-elpoliticsto&msg=4464.11

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Registered: 10-09-2004
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 9:33pm
It is sad to see that you have fallen for the hype of Michael Moore.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 10:12pm
No disrespect but I think you should really investigate the likes of Mr Moore. He clearly stated that this movie was HIS OPINION ONLY. Here are a few things I took out of Newsweek that Mr Moore did not tell you about Bush and the Saudi's.

A central theme of Michael Moore’s controversial documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11” is a bare allegation that Saudi Arabian interests provided $1.4 billion to firms connected to the family and friends of President George W. Bush.

However, as a special Newsweek investigative report notes, there is really less – not more – than meets the eye re the dramatic Moore claim:

Nearly 90 percent of that claimed amount, $1.18 billion, comes from contracts in the early to mid-1990’s that the Saudi Arabian government awarded to a U.S. defense contractor, BDM, for training the country’s military and National Guard. The “Bush” connection: The firm at the time was owned by the Carlyle Group, a private-equity firm whose Asian-affiliate advisory board once included the president’s father, George H.W. Bush.

But, points out Newsweek, former president Bush didn’t join the Carlyle advisory board until April, 1998 -- five months after Carlyle had already sold BDM to another defense firm.

As for the sitting president’s own Carlyle link, his service on the board ended when he quit to run for Texas governor -- a few months before the first of the Saudi contracts to the unrelated BDM firm was awarded.

The Carlyle Group is hardly a “Bush Inc,” noted Newsweek – but rather features a roster of bipartisan Washington power figures. “Its founding and still managing partner is Howard Rubenstein, a former top domestic policy advisor to Jimmy Carter. Among the firm’s senior advisors is Thomas “Mack” McLarty, Bill Clinton’s former White House chief of staff, and Arthur Levitt, Clinton’s former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. One of its other managing partners is William Cannard, Clinton’s chairman of the Federal Communications Commission.”

According to the report, the movie neglects to offer any evidence that Bush White House intervened in any way to bolster the interests of the Carlyle Group. In fact, the one major Bush administration decision that most directly affected the company’s interest was the cancellation of a $11 billion program for the Crusader rocket artillery system. The Crusader was manufactured by United Defense, which had been wholly owned by Carlyle until it spun the company off in a public offering in October, 2001. Carlyle still owned 47 percent of the shares in the defense company at the time that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld canceled the Crusader program the following year.

As to Moore’s dealings with the matter of the departing Saudis flown out of the United States in the days after the September 11 terror attacks, the 9/11 commission found that the FBI screened the Saudi passengers, ran their names through federal databases, interviewed 30 of them and asked many of them "detailed questions." "Nobody of interest to the FBI with regard to the 9/11 investigation was allowed to leave the country," the commission stated.

The entity in the White House that approved the flights wasn’t the president, or the vice president -- it was Richard Clarke, the counter-terrorism czar who was a holdover from the Clinton administration. Clarke has testified that he gave the approval conditioned on FBI clearance.

Here is an additional report for you

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 11:42pm
Have you seen the movie? If you haven't go watch the movie and then see if your opinion is the same and report. If it is then okay. Until you've seen the movie then you can't really say. I apologize if you have seen the movie.
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Registered: 08-07-2004
Sat, 10-09-2004 - 11:58pm
You are not going to sway any opinions with this kind of rant.

I do not "watch or read or listen to anything but liberal bias all day long" first because I work 40 hours a week. I do seek out a variety of opinions & views, I watch CNN, CSpan, BBC, & Fox news on TV. Online I read a wide variety of sites, & often follow links posted by others to make sure I'm not insulating myself in a bubble.

Your angry & onesided rant leaves me thinking you are the one steeped in a partisan environment.

I like MM & I approve of the movie F9/11 because it shows what the regular media won't show us. Any intelligent person can see F9/11 & make their own judgement about the info provided in it. I didn't pay much attention to MM's voice over, but the images sure make an impact. Sure he was selective in what he shows, the media regular does that too. If you want all your info screened by greedy corporate interests I suppose that's your right. I prefer to get my info about what's going on in the world from as many different sources as possible.

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Sun, 10-10-2004 - 12:03am
Don't forget that Moore isn't the only one out there with movies and/or books. And I believe someone posted this link before, but here it is again: http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/
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Sun, 10-10-2004 - 3:56am

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