Bush/ Kerry and why?
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| Sun, 10-10-2004 - 8:53pm |
I am very new to this board but have found most of the information I have read to be informative and thought provoking.
In regards to the election coming in November, I have one question that still plagues my mind.
What is more beneficial to our country?
A candidate (George W) who has not striven to settle doubts about whether he has been a good, effective and knowledgable president.
or
A candidate (John Kerry) who has not proven to hold many realistic promises for his idea of "a stronger America"
I am an independant, this year to be the first year that I have found myself devoting ample amounts of time to deciphering the actual "truths" (although I must admit, the spin has got me quite confused) through media left/right biased, to independant sources.
For all of you who seem to share similar ideologies with either one of the candidates, what can you provide me as an independant, without using slanderous rhetoric, in regards to supplying me with more information. And for those of you who feel or think strongly in regards to a particular party or the other, please supply me with good arguments as to why your candidate is the best fitted for the job. I strongly request negative comments about the other candidate to remain low, for believe you me, I have heard it all. What are each candidate's stregths.
Thank you
I look forward to hearing from ya'll

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I thank you geschichtsgal. Truly, the only thing I wanted was to hear your opinion. Perhaps I was a bit unrealistic to expect that opinions could formulate out of a positive outlook towards one candidate rather than negative feedback on another. this is not to say that "bashing" is not an opinion, just not one I'm interested in reading on this post, primarily because I am sick of the spin on t.v. I am tired of fox. news network wondering what their true motives maybe. I am sad that a respected news anchor such as Dan Rather may find the end of his career due to spin and reports that are not authentic, and perhaps what some critics may call his liberal zeal. Regardless of which, I am sad to see a country more divided than anything else. I always thought the true ideology of a government was to represent all people, regardless of race, gender, lifestyle etc. A representation that we elect so there may be that freedom of opinion and oppurtunity. So if I dare to request information regarding the two gentleman that are in contention to be our commander in chief, the appointers of supreme court judges, the vetoers of important bills, than please bear with me. I want to know which candidate better represents the whole of the country, not just individual or small group interests.
I don't understand the post that reported that somebody is trying to find information on Bush. Who cares if they would like to? Wouldn't you rather they be informed, if he has indeed made mistakes in judgement. You can't ask people to judge a man based on public opinion, you can only ask them to make sure they are thorough when formulating their own.
Thank you for your contributions
Despite all the political "bashing", I do not believe John Kerry to be a flip/flopper. I have listened to his stump speeches and debates and found that if he has any fault at all, it may be over explaining his policies. This is admirable when regards to detail, however I can see how us common folk can become confused with his technical rhetoric. I do believe if people actually did listen carefully, they may retain a better understanding of his positions.
but...how will that translate when working out foreign policies with our allies and hopeful global trade partners. If half (from what the polls seem to be reporting) are still confused or remain unconvinced or his sincerity, and we live in the United States, how will he effectively present his policies, no matter how well thought out, to other countries.
As for Bush...not trying to bash..but come on not one mistake that he could admit to in the last question of the debate. That doesn't produce confidence when the news, both left/right reports hardship in Iraq. How can we be asked to trust a man who either has an administration who doesn't allow him to be humble, or worse yet, he himself lacks humility. A good leader must always be aware of his misgivings, beyond the speech and swagger, but also recognize his failings. Otherwise, how do they learn and strive to do better. Either Bush's administration is in due repair or he is not credible.
People say that this is a choice between the lesser of two evils. The "anybody but Bush" and "the ultimate flip-flopper". This is getting old. We need have confidence in whom we vote for, especially when he is placed in office/stays in office. I don't think that "bashing" either way is going to contribute to a healthy political system after the elections. Isn't that what we are striving for after all?, an administration that we can place our faith in?
<<"As for Bush...not trying to bash..but come on not one mistake that he could admit to in the last question of the debate.">>.......From the transcript, Bush: >>"Now, you asked what mistakes. I made some mistakes in appointing people, but I'm not going to name them. I don't want to hurt their feelings on national TV."<<
<<"That doesn't produce confidence when the news, both left/right reports hardship in Iraq.">>... of course there's hardship in a country that is rebuilding after decades of cruel rule with not a glimpse of democratic procedures and inherent know-how. It takes time.
By the way, although the Iraq war is primary subject to be placed under the microscope, there are I am sure many other policies that President Bush could have commented on. A question deserves more scrutiny and consideration than what he offered to the last lady of the debate night.
I've been in that different time-zone all this time, so I only saw your "quest" (you posted yesterday)
Other, much greater American presidents have taken full responsibility for their mistakes.
Elaine
That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? No matter how much spin both sides put on their candidates, this is what it comes down to.
"With any luck the next four years will pass quickly and we'll be able to choose among better candidates."
And with any REAL luck we won't all be blown to smithereens in the meantime!
Bev
Kendra
Yeah, who wants a pres who listens to what the people want?
< I want a president who is steadfast, and who doesn't look at politics as merely politics. >
Like he was steadfast in his pursuit of Bin Laden?
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county . Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
I am also going to be voting for Bush. If you look at the answers of Bush and Kerry in the debates, Bush answers with facts and describes action we've taken that is very positive.
And interestingly enough, there's a guy whose parents lived in a Communist country (this man's name is David Horowitz-www.frontpagemag.com) and his parents heard what the Democrats were saying and decided to be Republicans because the Democratic verbage was exactly what they heard from their Communist country.
Other reasons I'm a Bush/Republican supporter:
The sanctity of life is respected and evident in his and their policies
Economic resolve is fair. Even as someone who doesn't make very much money, less of my money is taxed under a Republican administration.
Democratic polices are motivated by the desire for government dependency.
I have seen many be robbed of life and self-esteem due to not learning how to fish and just "learning" to receive a fish from the gov't.
As for the environment and "global warming," what many fail to realize is the earth, naturally, goes through periods of cooling and warming.
And even if I agreed with nothing except the Pro-Life stance, I would be a Bush supporter.
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