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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 2:47pm

Edwards: 'When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again'...

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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 2:50pm
Well, it makes perfect sense. George Soros thinks he's God, so why shouldn't we believe he has healing powers to bestow upon his charges?

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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:03pm
That is taken out of context if that was from the debates, but I will agree that it is a bit inappropriate. I think that they will have more hope, I do believe that, but Christopher Reeves is dead, so nothing can be done about that. Embryonic stem cell research was what he was talking about, it would be more likely to cure some diseases as embryonic cells are a bit more adaptable, or growth-prone than umbelical cells. (I should mention here that I am regurgitating what I learned in Biology years ago, and am in no way well informed on stem cell research) But Edwards point was that. If we have to take him literally then we should do that across the board. He looks like Britney Spears if she were an older man.
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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:10pm
Ever notice that only lib's wild statements are "taken out of context", but a Republican's statements, no matter how out of context, are to be used against them in every possible way? Thanks, G. Soros.

The difference between God and Soros is that God doesn't think he's Soros.

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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:17pm

<<That is taken out of context if that was from the debates, but I will agree that it is a bit inappropriate.>>


He said it yesterday, and it is inappropriate no matter what his point was.

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Registered: 05-12-2004
Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:25pm
how an you possibly say that? Think of every misstatement that Bush has made in his term, and while campaigning, and think of how many people said... Republicans and even me have given him credit for saying the wrong thing, though we know he meant different. He is just not a good communicator. Here is a website that debunks and adresses and qualifies a lot of rhetorical issues with who said what and in what context. I stumbled upon it and think you might like it, it may even give you some ammo for your argument.

http://www.spinsanity.org/topics/

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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:37pm
Ye of little faith...how about rise up and chew again? No one ever knows where research can lead.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5832265/

New jaw bone grown in man’s back muscle

German doctors use novel procedure to create transplant

The Associated Press

Updated: 8:39 p.m. ET Aug. 26, 2004

A German who had his lower jaw cut out because of cancer has enjoyed his first meal in nine years — a bratwurst sandwich — after surgeons grew a new jaw bone in his back muscle and transplanted it to his mouth in what experts call an “ambitious” experiment.

According to this week’s issue of The Lancet medical journal, the German doctors used a mesh cage, a growth chemical and the patient’s own bone marrow, containing stem cells, to create a new jaw bone that fit exactly into the gap left by the cancer surgery.

Tests have not been done yet to verify whether the bone was created by the blank-slate stem cells and it is too early to tell whether the jaw will function normally in the long term. But the operation is the first published report of a whole bone being engineered and incubated inside a patient’s body and transplanted.

Stem cells are the master cells of the body that go on to become every tissue in the body. They are a hot area of research with scientists trying to find ways to prompt them to make desired tissues, and perhaps organs.

But while researchers debate whether the technique resulted in a scientific advance involving stem cells, the operation has achieved its purpose and changed a life, said Stan Gronthos, a stem cell expert at the Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science in Adelaide, Australia.

“A patient who had previously lost his mandible (lower jaw) through the result of a destructive tumor can now sit down and chew his first solid meals in nine years ... resulting in an improved quality of life,” said Gronthos, who was not connected with the experiment.

The operation was done by Dr. Patrick Warnke, a reconstructive facial surgeon at the University of Kiel in Germany. The patient, a 56-year-old man, had his lower jaw and half his tongue cut out almost a decade ago after getting mouth cancer. Since then, he had only been able to slurp soft food or soup from a spoon.

In similar cases, doctors can sometimes replace a lost jawbone by cutting out a piece of bone from the lower leg or from the hip and chiseling it to fit into the mouth.

This patient could not have that procedure because he was taking a potent blood thinner for another condition and doctors considered it too dangerous to harvest bone from elsewhere in his body since extraction leaves a hole where the bone is taken, creating an extra risk of bleeding.

Artificial jaws made from plastic or other materials are not used because they pose too much of a risk of infection.

'Patient was really sick of living'

“He demanded reconstruction,” Warnke said. “This patient was really sick of living.”

Warnke and his group began by creating a virtual jaw on a computer, after making a three-dimensional scan of the patient’s mouth.

The information was used to create a thin titanium micro-mesh cage. Several cow-derived pure bone mineral blocks the size of sugar lumps where then put inside the structure, along with a human growth factor that builds bone and a large squirt of blood extracted from the man’s bone marrow, which contains stem cells.

The surgeons then implanted the mesh cage and its contents into the muscle below the patient’s right shoulder blade. He was given no drugs, other than routine antibiotics to prevent infection from the surgery.

The implant was left in for seven weeks, when scans showed new bone formation. It was removed about eight weeks ago, along with some surrounding muscle and blood vessels, put in the man’s mouth and connected to the blood vessels in his neck.

Scans showed new bone continued to form after the transplant.

Man now dines on sausage, steak

Four weeks after the operation, the man ate a German sausage sandwich, his first real meal in nine years. He eats steak now, but complains to his doctor that because he has no teeth he has to cut it into such small pieces that by the time he gets to the end of the steak, it’s cold.

He has reported no pain or any other difficulties associated with the transplant, Warnke said, adding that he hopes to be able to remove the mesh and implant teeth in the new jaw about a year from now.

Paul Brown, head of the Center for Tissue Regeneration Science at University College in London, said it’s not clear any major scientific ground has been broken, and tests may not be able to show whether the new bone came from stem cells, rather than from the growth factor alone.

The operation put established techniques together, resembling a well-known experiment in which University of Massachusetts scientists grew a human ear using a mold on the back of a mouse in 1995, he said.

“If you put loads of blocks of bone mineral into a hole and you induce cellular activity by putting in growth factors, it’s a standard approach that people have used to induce the body’s own response,” said Brown, who was not connected with the study. “Clearly some of them are going to work and it sounds like for this patient, this has worked.”

Biopsies of the jaw bone could later provide some answers on the quality of the bone, experts said.

“Just making the gross tissue shape right isn’t really the problem,” Brown said. “It’s what the shape of the tissue is at the microscopic and ultramicroscopic level. That’s the architecture which is so tricky and which is what gives function.”

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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 3:53pm

Is Kerry-Edwards now promising a new jawbone to everyone who needs one? How about organs for everyone who is on a waiting list for a transplant?


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Tue, 10-12-2004 - 4:04pm
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Well, it makes perfect sense. George Soros thinks he's God, so why shouldn't we believe he has healing powers to bestow upon his charges?

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Why not post a few quotes from Nancy Reagan and her thoughts on this issue?

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Tue, 10-12-2004 - 4:06pm
When was this said? Reeves was just announced dead recently, so he could have said this before it happened. He is talking about his case and steam cell research. Where was this taken from? There are other people out there who have similiar disablities as Mr. Reeves had and someday could be cured from the help of stem cell research.
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Registered: 08-05-2004
Tue, 10-12-2004 - 4:09pm
No. They are for funding stem cell research so the scientists can do their job and try to make discoveries to help heal people in the future and not just the rich people who can afford it now. Are you against this or something? Just wondering, and if so, how come?

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