USA Electoral College 2004

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Registered: 01-06-2001
USA Electoral College 2004
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Wed, 10-13-2004 - 5:30pm
Dear IVillagers,

Nothing would please me more than eliminating the Electoral College system,

and having a "one person equals one vote" system,

to reflect exactly the votes of USA citizens.

Nonetheless, as IVillage cl-Libraone has noted here on IVillage,

that Colorado has the option to vote into law that Colorado's Electoral College votes be 'split' between the candidates- proportioned to be much more a reflection of voter's

actual votes.



Colorado's system shall be better than the present mess,

and would go into effect this election, if passed by Colorado voters-

my hope is that this does indeed happen, Election 2004 !!!

ForeverHugs,

--Genietowner

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Registered: 10-06-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 6:12pm
America was never about one person one vote.

This is a Republic.

There is no mess. Only blind resentment and hatred because the EC "failed" to elect the candidate the Democrats wanted. Sore losers, bitter grapes and hate fueled by Dan Rather.

The EC seemed to work fine for over 200 years until the Associated Press decided that we duly elected the wrong man.

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Registered: 07-05-2003
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 6:33pm
If the Congress wanted to make an attempt to change the Constitution of the US, there are appropriate means to do so. I believe this was briefly talked about after the 2000 election, the talk died a natural death. Now are we once again going to hear more whining from the press because Dubya is reelected?
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Registered: 10-06-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 6:56pm
"Now are we once again going to hear more whining from the press because Dubya is reelected?"

Rev. Jackson has already promised legal action.

The press whined for several weeks before grudgingly accepting Dubya as the winner in 2000, time enough for many Democrats to never accept him as the CIC of our armed forces, yet somehow they say they "support our troops". I'd laugh if the treachery weren't so overt and condoned by ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, and the Associated Press.


Edited 10/13/2004 6:56 pm ET ET by frvt

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Registered: 07-20-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:13pm
What is the Electoral college for? It isin't even a college! The popular vote should decide.I bet if the Dems were ahead in Electoral votes the Repugs would be doing the whining.
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Registered: 08-12-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:22pm


Once men who did not own property could not vote.

Once Black Americans could not vote.

Once women could not vote.

It is only a logical extension of that, for every vote to count the same and not be affected by what size the state you live in is and how many people liked candidate A more than candidate B in that particular state.

The electoral college is a stupid anachronism that should be done away with.

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Registered: 10-06-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:44pm
"What is the Electoral college for? It isin't even a college!"

Per http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_elec.html, "Though the term is never used in the Constitution itself, the electors that choose the President at each election are traditionally called a College. In the context of the Constitution, the meaning of college is not that of a school, but of a group of people organized toward a common goal."

"The popular vote should decide."

Fine. U.S. Constitution, Article V allows for that change. Have at it.

"I bet if the Dems were ahead in Electoral votes the Repugs would be doing the whining."

No, Republicans concede gracefully when they lose, unlike Gore, 2000. Oklahoma allowed a dead Democrat to "win" his election and then give the seat to his widow.

Isn't "repug" against TOS? Should we start using 'rat?

Please advise if these are now acceptable terms. Thanks.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-05-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:47pm
Just wondering, but what exactly is the useage of the Electoral College??? Isn't the President supposed to be chosen by the popular vote? Other wise what would be the point of voting??
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Registered: 08-12-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:55pm
The explanation is rather lengthy so I would suggest going to this website set up by the federal election commission.- www.fec.gov/pages/ecmenu2.htm
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Registered: 08-31-2003
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 7:59pm
" The electoral college is a stupid anachronism that should be done away with."

Could you explian how and why in the electoral college is now obsolete in our system of government, phrasing in terms of living in a Republic and not a Democracy. Or are you in favor of chaning that too?

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Registered: 08-12-2004
Wed, 10-13-2004 - 8:29pm
It is not totally obsolete, but when it was set up there were many small states, each fiercely interested in their own rights more than that of the nation as a whole.

The system of giving electors based on congressional representation is flawed because each state has a different "value" for its votes compared to every other state because of differences in population. A vote in Florida counts a whole lot less than a vote in Wyoming for instance, because states with smaller populations still get two electors for their senators and at least one for their representative(s) in the house. This means that the relative weight a vote for whoever you choose will be different in every state. Why Should it be that way in this highly technological age? There is no good reason to continue that kind of injustice no matter who you support. BTW a similar type of problem exists with the US Senate, but that doesn't make it right.

States can have the same kind of rights without being out of balance with the other states in their power to influence a national election.


Edited 10/13/2004 8:37 pm ET ET by splum2004

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