I Just Saw the Documentary: Stolen Honor

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I Just Saw the Documentary: Stolen Honor
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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 2:48pm
What a dispicable human being John Forbes Kerry is! The same goes for Jane Fonda. I am sick to my stomach at the thought that they have never been held accountable in any real way for their treason.

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Sun, 10-17-2004 - 3:12pm
While I am not a Kerry fan by any stretch of the imagination I think its important to keep in mind that documentaries of this kind (much like the M Moore movie about Bush/911) are often based on opinions and not always fact.


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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 3:24pm
"ABC News Nightline went to Vietnam and interviewed villagers who witnessed the firefight in February 1969 that led to John Kerry being awarded a Silver Star. The incident is a center piece of the allegations made by the so-called 'Swift Boat Veterans for Truth', whose leader John O'Neill has claimed that there was no firefight and that Kerry shot dead a fleeing teenager. Nightline's detailed interviews with the villagers, including former Viet Cong fighters who took part in the incident, verified Kerry's account of events. When confronted by Nightline's Ted Koppel, a clearly rattled O'Neill refused to address the content of the report."

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

People will stop at nothing to discredit Kerry. You must not have anything good to say about Bush if all you can do is attack a war hero.

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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 3:28pm
You really need to watch Frontline choice 2004 on PBS to get a truer picture of both Kerry and Bush. The 527 group and Sinclaire broadcasting got together a bunch of people who would be willing to tell it THEIR way to discredit Kerry. At least Kerry served in vietnam, Bush avoided it altogether. Don't you people think atrocities are being commited against the Iraqi prisoners? How about all the innocent Iraqi civilians? How about the retaliation of beheadings of Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, and several others Doesn't that count? As far as I'm concern, the Vietnam war was a total disgrace, we didn't win, we just finally pulled out, after thousand upon thousands of deaths of our soldiers, for what? A rich man's war!
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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 3:47pm
No, this was not in any way like the Michael Moore film. I have seen them both. While Michael's was full of conspiracy theories, speculation, and creative license, this was interviews with actual highly decorated prisoners of war. They described the horrific torture that was going on inside the Hanoi Hilton, and what happened after, and how they felt about the treason and betrayal of John Forbes Kerry and Jane Fonda and others, and how their honor was stolen for more than 30 years now...

You can view it at http://www.stolenhonor.com/home.asp for $4.99. See for yourself.




Edited 10/17/2004 4:26 pm ET ET by iminnie833

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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 3:53pm
This movie was not about the Swiftboat veterans. And John O'Neill wasn't in it at all.

It was about the harm that anti-American propaganda and treason caused to our veterans (who were spat on after the war thanks to John Forbes Kerry's lies). It was about slandering hundreds of thousands of honorable soldiers in order to advance his own political objectives. The men interviewed were highly decorated and very credible.

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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 4:07pm
Speaking of a "rich man's war" let me point out that only a rich man could get out of combat after only four months in order to go back and run for congress. Also only a rich man could be awarded six medals in only four months of combat. The less privilaged serve their entire tour. When they come back, they don't have the leisure time or money available to them to run for congress. Also the less privilaged only get awarded medals when they deserve them, not because they are buiding a political resume in record time.

Kerry admitted to committing war crimes while in Vietnam. Liberals are now supporting a man who won a medal for chasing down a fleeing man and killing him. A man who has publicly stated that he will "chase down the terrorists and kill them", and a man who said while in Vietnam he participated in shooting innocent people, women and children with 50 caliber machine guns and burning their villages.

The legacy of John Forbes Kerry to date is the incorrect perception from millions of Americans that our soldiers served dishonorably, were baby killers, were crazed rapists during that war. We didn't win that war because President Johnson (D) ran the war according to POLITICS rather than listening to his military Generals and running it militarily. The war was also extended two extra years because of John Forbes Kerry's political ambitions, and because of Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and others.




Edited 10/17/2004 4:41 pm ET ET by iminnie833

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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 4:58pm
Right. The Kerry camp tried to get some air time to show a movie of their's but didn't succeede. Check out http://www.thekerrymovie.com It's the movie they made earlier this year of Kerry and his 'nam record and the anti-war movement and you can download it for free and legally. When I did it the download took about an hour and I got to watch it that afternoon. It's only fair to check out both movies. Sinclair and his group MADE people show this whether they wanted to or not. So you'd believe them but not Michael Moore? What's the difference?
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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 5:10pm

So you'd believe them but not Michael Moore? What's the difference?


could ya show me where I said that?

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Sun, 10-17-2004 - 5:24pm
If you're talking about the Senate scene he was talking about crimes committed by other soliders who confessed to a group of people who were there to listen to them and get involved. Check out thekerrymovie.com and you'll see that. It started out just a meeting where soliders from 'Nam could come and talk about what was on their conscious. Finally Kerry decided to do something because he knew that this wasn't a just war and so did all the other thousands of soliders who were involved. Also, if it wasn't for the anti-war movement and the other vets do you think we'll still be in 'Nam today fighting for no reason?
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Registered: 08-05-2004
Sun, 10-17-2004 - 5:25pm
Don't all Bush supporters discredit him? Nothing he says is true?

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