Another Misrepresentation

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Another Misrepresentation
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Sat, 09-13-2008 - 1:54pm

What about Palin's resume IS true? She was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it.   She didn't really sell the airplane via Ebay for a profit.  Now....she did NOT enter Iraq.  Did they just create a narrative and hope nobody would check into it?


 


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/13/palin_camp_clarifies_extent_of_iraq_trip/


 


Palin camp clarifies extent of Iraq trip
Says she never ventured beyond Kuwait border

Private Christopher T. Grammer/Department of Defense via Associated Press/fileLieutenant Colonel David Cogdell helped Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska test out training equipment at Camp Buehring, Kuwait, on July 24, 2007. Private Christopher T. Grammer/Department of Defense via Associated Press/fileLieutenant Colonel David Cogdell helped Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska test out training equipment at Camp Buehring, Kuwait, on July 24, 2007. (Private Christopher T. Grammer/Department of Defense via Associated Press/file)

 

By Bryan Bender

 


Globe Staff / September 13, 2008


WASHINGTON - Sarah Palin's visit to Iraq in 2007 consisted of a brief stop at a border crossing between Iraq and Kuwait, the vice presidential candidate's campaign said yesterday, in the second official revision of her only trip outside North America.




Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone.


But in response to queries about the details of her trip, campaign aides and National Guard officials in Alaska said by telephone yesterday that she did not venture beyond the Kuwait-Iraq border when she visited Khabari Alawazem Crossing, also known as "K-Crossing," on July 25, 2007.


Asked to clarify where she traveled in Iraq, Palin's spokeswoman, Maria Comella, confirmed that "She visited a military outpost on the other side of the Kuwait-Iraq border."


It was the second such clarification in as many weeks of the itinerary of what Palin has called "the trip of a lifetime." Earlier, the campaign acknowledged that Palin made only a refueling stop in Ireland.


In her interview with ABC News Thursday night, Palin did not mention Iraq in describing the visit, saying only that she went to Kuwait and Germany to meet with US forces.


According to an itinerary obtained from the Alaska National Guard, the Republican governor visited troops and airmen at a series of bases in Kuwait, including Camp Buehring, Camp Virginia, and Ali Al Salem Air Base.


Her visit to Iraq itself was during a short stop at Khabari Alawazem Crossing on the second day of her two-day trip to the region.


Palin arrived at Camp Buehring in Kuwait, where she held a town meeting with soldiers and reviewed various training programs designed to prepare troops to deploy into Iraq, said Lieutenant Colonel Dave Osborn, commander of the 3d Battalion, 207th Infantry of the Alaska National Guard, who was in charge of the 570 local troops serving in Kuwait and Iraq.


"The whole intent was to check on the Alaskans," Osborn said in a telephone interview yesterday.


On the second day of the trip, he said, Palin was flown to the border crossing, about 100 miles north of Camp Buehring, where she spent the morning meeting with troops and presiding over a ceremony in which an Alaska National Guard soldier extended his enlistment.


But she did not venture into Iraq, Osborn said. "You have to have permission to go into a lot of areas, and is where her permissions were," he said.


Palin did not stay the night in Iraq, and spent the rest of the second day at Camp Virginia and Ali Al Salem Air Base, Osborn said.


Palin also told ABC that she had traveled to Mexico and Canada. Her campaign had previously mentioned a Canada visit, but not a trip to Mexico. Comella said yesterday that Palin had visited Mexico on vacation, and Canada once last year.


"We did not have 100 percent confirmation about the Mexico trip in the initial days we were being asked. It was a personal trip," Comella said.


Palin's campaign did not respond to requests for details about when she traveled to Mexico and where she went, nor did it provide details of her 2007 Canada trip or indicate whether it was for business or pleasure.>>>


 

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Registered: 09-06-2008
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 10:32am
We will, I assure you: every time they lie or "exaggerate."

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Registered: 09-06-2008
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 10:46am

Your question ("if the important thing is that she sold it, why lie?") is of course, exactly on target. And I suspect you may already know this, but if not, I can tell you why lie about it:

It has to do with the fact that, in each case, the specific lie told is NOT merely (as you described it) "fluff." In other words, the things which are added to what actually took place are not merely inconsequential details. Instead, in every single case, the "add-ons" are things which dramatically pump-up Palin's IMAGE. Saying "I sold the plane through a private plane broker, at a small loss" has approximately ZERO "pizazz" when stacked up against: "and that wasteful plane? I put it on eBay!" The former, while having the benefit of being the actual TRUTH of the matter, is about as exciting as oatmeal, and doesn't give Palin the "zingy" image that Steve Schmidt and the image-crafters in the McCain campaign are trying to create around Palin. But the latter? Populist "gold," baby. Makes her sound like exactly the sort of tough-minded, brook-no-BS, unconventional hockey-mom executive they're trying to craft....even when/if the reality is nowhere near so exciting. That's why they SAY it - even though they're quite aware they run the risk of someone bothering to check and report that it's not, technically, true. Even the objections of "that's not true" are met with "oh, jeez, you guys are getting so desperate, you're quibbling over meaningless details."

See how it works? I assure you, with the possible exception of debate performances and/or off-the-cuff answers by candidates during un-announced press interviews (like on the tarmac as they board a plane, or something) NOTHING in either campaign is done by accident, or without prior deliberation, in the same way that literally NO sound you hear in a movie theater is "organically" generated - that is, it was NOT recorded by one microphone, live, but rather crafted and edited specifically in the studio, separately from the visual images being recorded. They micro-analyze this stuff to DEATH. So if the Palin camp makes such "errors," you can be absolutely, 100% sure that they were done intentionally. Maybe not if the candidate herself said something off-the-cuff. But when you've got campaign aides repeatedly confirming things which simply aren't true, such as that Palin SOLD the jet on ebay, or that she HAS been to Ireland and Iraq -- it's on purpose. These aren't "unimportant" things, though they certainly can SEEM trivial. But if there's one thing Republicans do well, it's run campaigns. They are masters of the kind of sub-rational manipulation which all of us are - to greater or lesser degrees - guilty of falling victim to: the "gut sense" of things. On that level, lying about Palin's having "sold a plane on eBay" vs. simply saying that the truth is she sold it at a slight loss through a private aviation broker....is enormous, in terms of the way it's received by a public just getting to know Sarah Palin. And, as witnessed by the fact that 12% of the electorate still thinks Barack Obama is a Muslim, once a meme or theme has taken hold, it's enormously difficult to dislodge it. It takes immeasurably more work to re-calibrate what people "know" in their "gut" about a person or thing or event, than it does to PLANT an idea there initially, where there wasn't much of anything previously.

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Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 11:19am

Shading -- or ignoring -- truth on the campaign trail

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-truth14-2008sep14,0,7243644,full.story


Political innocents may wonder why a candidate such as McCain, whose campaign is premised on 'straight talk' -- and to a lesser extent Obama -- have veered from the truth. Because it works.

For weeks, John McCain and his campaign have made claims contradicted by reality: Barack Obama favors sex education for kindergartners and insulted Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin; Palin sold her state plane on EBay and turned down federal money for the "bridge to nowhere."

Obama has argued that McCain doesn't understand voter concern about the foundering economy and -- attention, Michigan voters -- has refused to support loan guarantees for the auto industry.

 


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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 11:34am
I wouldn't

 

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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 12:39pm

Too funny, the Obama supporters are falling all over themselves trying to find SOMETHING to attack Palin on...


Not falling all over themselves - it's just too easy.

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Registered: 08-24-2008
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 1:29pm

It's not an attack to notice when something is trumped up to be what it's not.

 

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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 1:33pm
Now, now.....we mustn't hit a girl. Caribou Barbie is a DELICATE creature, despite her carefully-confected image as a "pit bull."

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling Begging
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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 1:34pm
What a bang-on article!

 

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