True, very true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Registered: 08-24-2008
True, very true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 11:24pm

 





Bin Laden was in our sights once and we didnt take the shot. That was Bill Clinton. He just lobbed missles at them from a distance and pissed them off so they decided to fly planes into our buildings.


Choose Obama and get pandering to our enemies like the Clinton years. Choose McCain and be sure that our enemies will think very long and hard before making any attempts to harm us.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 9:04am

The truth lies somewhere twixt the two extremes. The Jewel/Rudolph investigation was so badly bungled that the FBI guy in charge was disciplined. In spite of this, he was made head of the FBI anti-terror unit at one point.

Catching bin Laden is not as simple as telling a random platoon to "go git 'im!" OTOH, the Tora-Bora operation was a farce, much like the Jewel case.

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Registered: 07-03-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 9:27am

Nothing was done? Ramze Yousef was caught and convicted. He was involved in the 1993 WTC bombings.


http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/08/yousef/index.html


Did Bill Clinton pass up a chance to get Bin Laden?


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_bill_clinton_pass_up_a_chance_1.html


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Registered: 02-27-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 9:57am

Nope, did Bush's?

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Registered: 03-18-2000
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 9:59am
FLASHBACK: Conservative Lawmakers Decried Clinton’s Attacks Against Osama As ‘Wag the Dog’»
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/wag-the-dog/

In his interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, former President Bill Clinton noted that the political right, which now accuses him of not doing enough to stem the al Qaeda terrorist threat, criticized his 1998 missile strikes in Afghanistan as “wag the dog.” Clinton said:



The people on my political right who say I didn’t do enough spent the whole time I was president saying, Why is he so obsessed with bin Laden? That was wag the dog when he tried to kill him.


Originating from a 1997 movie, Wag the Dog was a phrase used by the right to suggest Clinton’s airstrikes were driven by ulterior motives in an effort to distract the public. Some examples below:


Rep. Jim Gibbons (R-NV):



‘Look at the movie Wag the Dog. I think this has all the elements of that movie,’ Rep. Jim Gibbons, R-Nev., said. ‘Our reaction to the embassy bombings should be based on sound credible evidence, not a knee-jerk reaction to try to direct public attention away from his personal problems.’”


Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA):



There’s an obvious issue which will be raised internationally about the response here as to whether there is any diversionary motive involved. … I have deliberated consciously any references to Ms. Monica Lewinsky, but when you ask the question in very blunt terms, the president’s current problems have to be on the minds of many people.”


Former Sen. John Ashcroft (R-MO):



“‘We support the president out of a sense of duty whenever he deploys military forces, but we’re not sure - were these forces sent at this time because he needed to divert our attention from his personal problems?‘ Ashcroft said during the taping of a TV program in Manchester, N.H.”


Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX):



“I’m very supportive of the strike that has happened, but I will tell you that the timing is very questionable. This was the day that Monica Lewinsky has gone back to the grand jury, evidently enraged. Certainly that information will be overshadowed.”



Former Sen. Dan Coats (R-IN):



“Coats (R-IN), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said in a statement, ‘While there is clearly much more we need to learn about this attack and why it was ordered today, given the president’s personal difficulties this week, it is legitimate to question the timing of this action.‘”


Former Rep. Dave Weldon (R-FL):



“Although most in Congress rallied around Clinton on Thursday, two Republican U.S. senators and one Central Florida congressman broke with the tradition of standing behind a president during a foreign crisis.Sen. Daniel Coats, R-Ind., Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and U.S. Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Palm Bay, publicly questioned Clinton’s motives in launching the attacks so soon after his public admission of a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky. … ‘The president has, indeed, broken the trust of the American people, and these are legitimate questions that must be answered.’


Former Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA):



“All I’m saying is if factors other than good intelligence, military necessity, being prepared for the consequences entered into it, then it is wrong, and it appears that one of those factors that may have entered into it is to take something that could have been done a week ago and do it today in an effort to divert some attention.


Much more at Salon’s War Room.

 


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Registered: 06-09-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:05am

Nope, did Bush's?

Rose

Yep, he sure did. No other president can claim 7 years with no attacks on the U.S. However, I do not condone his execution of war in Iraq.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:11am
Remind me, between the 93 bombing of the WTC and 9/11 were there any al-Qaeda or other Muslim terrorist attacks against targets IN the US?
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Registered: 09-06-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:12am
Are you serious? EVERY other President can claim seven years with no attacks on the US, except those who only had one term, and Franklin Roosevelt, who was in charge when WWII started (unless you want to back into the 1800s and beyond). Heck, CLINTON can claim seven years with no attacks on the US, if you figure from the time of the original WTC bombing. And no, I don't count the Cole in that, since although that's certainly US property/lives, it's not THE U.S. - i.e., our actual country.

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling Begging
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Registered: 06-09-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:30am
"Remind me, between the 93 bombing of the WTC and 9/11 were there any al-Qaeda or other Muslim terrorist attacks against targets IN the US?"

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Registered: 09-06-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:36am
Relevance is NOT "psychological only" - though I agree that an attack on US soil has a much greater psychological impact. Ever wonder WHY that is? Because everyone out there knows (though you seem deeply interested in trying to get us to forget) that it's much more difficult to launch a successful attack WITHIN our borders than it is to go somewhere within your own country, halfway around the world (or some OTHER country), locate a US "asset," and attack it.

Hell, by your standards, then, you can't count Bush among those who have "kept us safe" for seven-plus years.

Facts. They're what's for dinner. No, really, have more -- there's plenty.

Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling Begging
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Registered: 06-09-2008
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 10:37am

"Heck, CLINTON can claim seven years with no attacks on the US, if you figure from the time of the original WTC bombing. And no, I don't count the Cole in that, since although that's certainly US property/lives, it's not THE U.S. - i.e., our actual country."