Change vs. Change

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Change vs. Change
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Mon, 09-22-2008 - 7:56am
If Barack Obama is elected, I do believe change will come. If he does what he says he will do and there is nothing to indicate that he will not, I believe we will begin to see a foreign policy change that emphasizes diplomacy over bombing everything in sight.
I believe that Obama will try to turn the economy around and to establish affordable health care.
Obama truly respresented a change in the status quo.
The only change I believe that will happen under John McCain is nickles and dimes in my pocket that used to be dollar bills.
McCain embraces and endorces everything that George W. Bush has done over the past eight years and plans more of the same. That is just more of the same. Change means something different. If McCain truly is a maverick who advocates change, then why does he not criticize any of Bush’s policies? Why? Because they are exactly the same!
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 12:44pm

you're right - they all make promises they can't keep.

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 12:49pm
How is McCain "change?" In what specific areas will his administration be a "change?" And how will HE accomplish it?





But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness is in fact held to be enhanced in proportion as truth decreases and illusion increases, so that the highest degree of illusion comes to be the highest degree of sacredness.
- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 2nd. ed., 1841


But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness
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Mon, 09-22-2008 - 12:54pm
sorry that was a typo - it was supposed to be 'so many are voting for obama b/c they want change (which I understand) but many of those same people can't tell me what change he is offering or more important HOW he will get there'.

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:00pm

Same question, though: McCain and Palin are now campaigning on "REAL change."

John McCain's acceptance speech at the Republican convention was "Change Is Coming."

Please detail for us what specific changes from the Bush regime John McCain will be providing, and - more importantly - how he will ACHIEVE those changes (and, of course, where applicable, why we should BELIEVE that McCain is for change, if the position he's advocating today is one he's recently flip-flopped on, such as immigration....the Bush tax cuts....offshore drilling.....etc, etc, etc....)

Thanks in advance.






But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness is in fact held to be enhanced in proportion as truth decreases and illusion increases, so that the highest degree of illusion comes to be the highest degree of sacredness.
- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 2nd. ed., 1841


But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness
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Registered: 09-15-2008
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:03pm
And, on a more macro-level note (not to put too fine a point on it), explain in general how a seventy-two year-old white guy who's been in Washington for twenty-six years can represent "change?" Is it JUST because he picked a near-total neophyte, a moose-chewing, young-Earth creationist, beauty-pageant runner up who got her first passport two years ago as his running mate? Is that all it takes to be "change?"





But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness is in fact held to be enhanced in proportion as truth decreases and illusion increases, so that the highest degree of illusion comes to be the highest degree of sacredness.
- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 2nd. ed., 1841


But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:08pm

edited to say -- I made the following post thinking I was in on a diff board/in a different thread ... so I now know it was

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:15pm

Goodness! My mistake - I assumed that a thread entitled "change vs. change" might be a spirited examination of BOTH candidates' claim to be intending to "bring change to Washington." I also assumed that - within TOS - any poster is free to respond in any way they see fit - or not to respond - to any post.

So I did.

I figured if you were keen to know from Obama supporters how they really thought Obama would be specifically accomplishing change, then you'd be the last one to object to others asking you or other McCain folks the same questions.



But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence.....truth is considered profane, and only illusion sacred. Sacredness
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Registered: 07-03-2008
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:16pm
SCHIP stands for State Children's Health Insurance Plan the other option which is very reasonable is an insurance through the School. You have the option to insure during the school year only, which id during the time they are in school, or for the 24 hours, home and at school it costs a bit more, but still dirt cheap. the school district my grandson is in does that as do many in our area.
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:20pm

oops my bad .... I thought i was in a different thread, lol.


100% my mistake.

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Mon, 09-22-2008 - 1:33pm

I could be wrong (usually give it a mere glance since my kids have insurance) but I think here the insurance offered was only for accidents and not illnesses, through the school.


and to you find it contradictory that he says 'require parents have their kids insured' yet make medicaid more available?

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