i'm confused, how did obama....

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i'm confused, how did obama....
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Fri, 09-26-2008 - 9:43pm
6 years ago oppose the war in iraq? was he in senate then?

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 2:58am
Most likely it was just frustration. I am pretty sure that everyone, including the poster you quote, is aware that the poster with the Sanskrit handle is no Hindu.
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 3:49am

>>> I'm afraid it is you who are mistaken, for two reasons.

I hope you’ve got more than mind-reading this time.

>>> Yes, Obama's used a figure of "95%" on the campaign trail. He's used it to describe a rough, easy-to-grasp estimate of people who would and would not be affected by his tax reductions, because his plan isn't simply a meat-cleaver approach to the income tax alone. It also includes adjustments in capital gains and other taxes, so it's pretty much impossible to put an accurate percentage number on it.

I appreciate the admission that Obama is lying. I already proved it but it’s great to have you on board. ; )

>>> What's more accurate is that Obama has given a dollar figure - which the nonprofit, nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has agreed with - of $250,000.

Yeah, we’ve already proven that’s a lie…

Including all tax returns that had a positive AGI, taxpayers with an AGI of $153,542 or more in 2006 constituted the nation's top 5 percent of earners.
www.taxfoundation.org/files/ff135.pdf

>>> What you're trying to do, with your link…spin-spin-spin…where they conclude that

Actually, what I’m trying to do is expose Obama for the liar he is. Obama has been quite clear in his statements…95% of Americans will get a tax break…lie. He’ll only raise the taxes of people making over $250K…lie. You’re certainly free to swallow Obama’s lies and propaganda if you wish, but I prefer reality to spin.

>>> The two candidates' tax plans would have sharply different distributional effects. Senator McCain's tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes, almost all of whom would receive large tax cuts that would, on average, raise their after-tax incomes by more than twice the average for all households.

I support McCain’s tax cuts that have been proven to be effective over Obama’s punitive tax cuts that will do nothing but damage business, harm the country and hurt low to middle income households.

>>> Senator Obama offers much larger tax breaks to low- and middle-income taxpayers and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers. The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution, while taxpayers with the highest income would see their taxes rise significantly.

I’m sure that poor folks will appreciate the additional $40 a month. Quite the life-changer. Maybe they’ll buy a computer or put their kids through college.

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 3:56am
You certainly felt sufficiently motivated to put up your "argument" in the first place...so it's pretty obvious that your "refusal" to support it further is proof that you can't and that you're wrong. Oh, well...you can lead a horse to water...
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 4:25am

<<"Most likely it was just frustration">>


Bigotry flung around just out of 'frustration' is never OK. It's condemned in each and every so-called

Djie

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 4:45am
Bigotry and racism come in many guises...but what's so incredibly pathetic is to see the apologies and approval it has received from the left.
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 4:47am
That's an excuse for such a gross, disgusting display of racism and bigotry?
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 5:29am
No, it is called sarcasm.
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Registered: 11-08-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 5:40am
Excellent response!!!

 Rose

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 5:46am
So can we do away with anything bigot/racist by labeling/regarding it as "just frustration" and "sarcasm"? I can't believe my eyes! :-(

Djie

Djie

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 6:00am
No.

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