B.O. sure lost the debate!

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Registered: 07-25-2008
B.O. sure lost the debate!
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Fri, 09-26-2008 - 10:37pm

:)


mccain was on his mark. 

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Registered: 10-01-2004
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 10:29am

McCain was articulate and informed; his answers were concise and to the point.

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Registered: 01-06-2001
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 10:34am

ditsey pompom girl from Alaska


Wow is that funny.

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-05-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 10:37am
Did McCain?

 

 

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:21am
I will sleep much better at night with John McCain as command-in-chief, than Barack Obama, who spent most of his career as a law professor, not serving his country.


Teachers aren't serving their country?

OK, if you say so. To me, that's the sort of attitude which recognizes no other service except signing up for the military. There are plenty of ways to serve one's country; you don't have to pick up a gun (or crash five planes, LOL) to do so.

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Registered: 01-06-2001
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:24am

He said a spending freeze, with the exception of veterans, foreign affairs and entitlement programs.


I can't find a decent text copy of the debate at the moment but he also suggested to stop paying countries that didn't' like us so much because they are spending it on working with

 

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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:28am
Well you see a few years ago a Bushie - I think he was the Secretary of Education at the time but I can't remember his name right now = called the National Education Association a 'terrorist organization' so I guess that makes me a terrorist. It's a wonder the right wing still send their children to school - LOL.
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Registered: 01-05-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:36am

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Thanks for this reminder.

 

 

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:38am
No, not at all; Obama smartly doesn't want to be boxed by McCain or anyone else into making a promise that he then later has to either keep to the detriment of the country (if conditions make it unwise to keep it), or break and appear as if he never had any intention of keeping it in the first place. With the financial markets in crisis and turmoil, and even the immediate future VERY uncertain, I'd say such a position - admitting that obviously some priorities would have to be re-arranged, but not committing to specific ones - sounds a lot more level-headed than what John McCain proposed. Did anyone besides me catch the implication of what McCain promised? Here's what he actually said:

How about a spending freeze on everything but defense, veteran affairs and entitlement programs.


Here's a partial list of the things McCain just went ON RECORD saying he'd like to abandon:

  • Healthcare, as Obama pointed out. Screw ‘em. Let ‘em ruin themselves over basic hospital bills.


  • Alternative energy, as Obama pointed out. Screw ‘em. Let ‘em pay $4->$5->$10->$20->$?? a gallon.


  • FEMA. Katrina, Ike? Screw ‘em. Let ‘em drown.


  • Infrastructure. Bridges collapsing in Minnesota? Trains crashing in SoCal due to operator error? Screw ‘em. Let ‘em crash and die.


  • Education. Kids can’t read? Screw ‘em. Let the Chinese and Indians do our reading for us.


  • Start-ups. Screw ‘em. Let Europe build Technology 2.0.


  • International Investment. Screw ‘em. Let all those Sub-Saharan Africans die of HIV-Aids.


Now, if you're a conservative, you're probably already frothing at the mouth over the unfairness of the above characterizations of McCain's position. "Obviously," you sputter to yourself, "McCain doesn't favor abandoning all those things! Only an IDIOT would think that!" And guess what? You're right....I'm sure that John McCain DOESN'T favor letting all those things slide. Nevertheless, that is EXACTLY what simplistic language and meat-cleaver propositions like the one McCain used to make a debate point would MEAN in real life. McCain knows it wouldn't actually WORK in practice like that.

Obama knows it too....only he's betting the American people are smart and mature enough to HEAR it, instead of insisting upon being promised - like so many Republican politicians in the recent past have promised the electorate in order to get elected - a solution which is simple, neat and wrong (not to mention unfeasible). That's why Obama's answer is both more accurate and more honest.

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:41am
He was the secretary of education at the time, which was what made his comments such a disgrace.

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Registered: 07-05-2006
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:42am

That was Rod Paige.


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